[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4752: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3887)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4754: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3887)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4755: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3887)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4756: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3887)
ToME: the Tales of Maj'Eyal • View topic - question about ogre wyrmics

ToME: the Tales of Maj'Eyal

Everything about ToME
It is currently Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:18 am

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 15 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:43 am 
Offline
Halfling

Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:59 pm
Posts: 92
I saw where they can hold a two handed weapon in one hand, but they lose 20% physical power. Is this worth it for a breath wyrmic?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:46 am 
Offline
Sher'Tul

Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:19 am
Posts: 1154
Location: Yeehaw, pardner
Breaths scale only off strength. And the dual wielding should also incur a mindpower and spell power penalty.

_________________
A little bit of a starters guide written by yours truly .


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:44 pm 
Offline
Sher'Tul Godslayer

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2003 7:38 pm
Posts: 1970
Location: GMT-8:00
It's more likely to be worth it for a wyrmic than any other class.

Wyrmics have the trees to take advantage of it and have them unlocked.
On weapon damage using talents you get about 20% more damage from a two handed weapon. This comes out not quite a wash (0.8*1.2=0.96) but closer than for anything that uses mindpower or spellpower. You will come out ahead with a size increase which you'll want anyways for swallow.
Breaths are, as Microbran already noted, unaffected.

You'll want to build towards weapon using talents rather than mindpower using talents to get an advantage from oversized weapons.

_________________
Digitochracy
n. 1. technocracy. 2. government by the numbers. 3. rule by people with the longest fingers.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:22 pm 
Offline
Sher'Tul

Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:19 am
Posts: 1154
Location: Yeehaw, pardner

_________________
A little bit of a starters guide written by yours truly .


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:57 pm 
Offline
Halfling

Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:59 pm
Posts: 92
Ok, i don't think I came across correctly.

Breaths use Strength, not weapons as far as I Know. So let's use Sand Breath for instance.

SB is strength based (so 2 weapons worth of bonus stats) but at a -20% penalty for physical power.

So my question is, if you're going to be a breath wyrmic, is it worth going for the dual wielding two handed weapons or two handed/one handed even though you'll take a -20% penalty?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:35 pm 
Offline
Sher'Tul

Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:19 am
Posts: 1154
Location: Yeehaw, pardner
Physical power ~= strength. So yes.

_________________
A little bit of a starters guide written by yours truly .


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:06 pm 
Offline
Halfling

Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:59 pm
Posts: 92
Thanks :)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:07 pm 
Offline
Halfling

Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:59 pm
Posts: 92


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:13 am 
Offline
Sher'Tul Godslayer

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2003 7:38 pm
Posts: 1970
Location: GMT-8:00
No. Off-hand damage is halved except for mindstars and shields. Shields don't get used on normal attacks, though, so they don't add anything. If you would otherwise be building two handed don't bother with oversized grip. If you would otherwise be using a shield you can stack size and get an advantage.

_________________
Digitochracy
n. 1. technocracy. 2. government by the numbers. 3. rule by people with the longest fingers.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:14 am 
Offline
Sher'Tul

Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:19 am
Posts: 1154
Location: Yeehaw, pardner

_________________
A little bit of a starters guide written by yours truly .


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:20 am 
Offline
Halfling

Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:59 pm
Posts: 92
Let's try this again.

Breaths run on strength right? So physical power has nothing to do with breaths right? Even physical breaths? So I should stack two weapons with as much str as possible?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:35 am 
Offline
Sher'Tul

Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:19 am
Posts: 1154
Location: Yeehaw, pardner
Sure, go for it.

_________________
A little bit of a starters guide written by yours truly .


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:14 am 
Offline
Sher'Tul Godslayer

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2003 7:38 pm
Posts: 1970
Location: GMT-8:00
Two weapons aren't going to help you stack strength very much. +str on an off-hand weapon is rare. I think there's an artifact mindstar and there are some shields, but none of the mindstar or dagger egos boost strength AFAIK. If you want to use breaths oversized grip doesn't hurt you, but it also isn't helping much.

_________________
Digitochracy
n. 1. technocracy. 2. government by the numbers. 3. rule by people with the longest fingers.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:34 am 
Offline
Halfling

Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2014 11:59 pm
Posts: 92
Awesome, that was the answer I was looking for :) Thanks a lot!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:42 pm 
Offline
Halfling

Joined: Tue May 12, 2015 5:59 pm
Posts: 102


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 15 posts ] 

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group