ToME: the Tales of Maj'Eyal

Everything about ToME
It is currently Fri Aug 07, 2020 9:21 am

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 29 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2
Author Message
PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:34 pm 
Offline
Wayist

Joined: Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:43 pm
Posts: 16
DC is the devil. I pretty much never do that zone on my insane runs.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:51 am 
Offline
Uruivellas

Joined: Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:21 pm
Posts: 687
Location: From Russia with atchoum!
It's very fun, try it.
Sometimes require good amount of calculations and precise execution, but it's fun.

What I like in DC is you need to prepare for it, thus it's a frame in which you need to build your char and game route.
It gives a goal instead of just lazyly leveling up your char in comfortable places.

_________________
English isn't my native language.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:49 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:46 pm
Posts: 2
Loved this. Died twice in the final battle, but otherwise smooth sailing. I actually liked setting out the beam trap and wandering away while it hit them for a while. With Serpentine Cloak, Mystical Cunning and Adept, had poison up to 3.44. Ended up at 105 for stealth.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:15 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:09 am
Posts: 3
Hi! Here a newbie player (i bought ToME years ago, but im into now)

I have tested some guides, and this is simply awesome. Smooth progression and i have understood a lot of gameplay mechanics. But i have a question...

When u get prodigies, you must accomplish some requirements. For example, in Mystical Cunning you need 50 magic, or in Armor of Shadows, 50k darkness damage. But i have seen the final build of OP, and he has 24 Magic. How can i get prodigies without requirements? Am i losing something?

Thx by your guide anyway. It has gotten that i love ToME \o/


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:29 pm 
Offline
Sher'Tul Godslayer

Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 9:17 pm
Posts: 1517
Prodigies (and most other things, really) care about your current stats, not your baseline, and very few things stop working if you lose the requirements after you learn the talent or put on the equipment. Nevermind 26 or so, getting 40+ magic (or whatever) on your equipment by the time you can get your first (or definitely your second) prodigy is generally pretty trivial if you're trying for it. Just keep an eye out for items that significantly boost your magic and you'll probably be fine.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:28 pm 
Offline
Wyrmic

Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:55 pm
Posts: 297
Frumple wrote:
Prodigies (and most other things, really) care about your current stats, not your baseline, and very few things stop working if you lose the requirements after you learn the talent or put on the equipment. Nevermind 26 or so, getting 40+ magic (or whatever) on your equipment by the time you can get your first (or definitely your second) prodigy is generally pretty trivial if you're trying for it. Just keep an eye out for items that significantly boost your magic and you'll probably be fine.


Just pointing out that stacking stats from gear like this is harder on normal difficulty.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:03 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:09 am
Posts: 3
Thx dudes. I wiil try it, but its almost 30 points in equipment... Suppose like say tabs, in Normal is hard to get that amount. Maybe the same to darkness damage. I only get crap mindstars with that kind of damage, so arrive to 50k is a dream.

I have arrived Master for first time! Again, so funny build.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:20 pm 
Offline
Sher'Tul Godslayer

Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 9:17 pm
Posts: 1517
I play almost exclusively on normal difficulty :P

It's usually not that hard to get +20-30 by your first prodigy, or +40 or better by your second. You do have to keep an eye out, and maybe murder some adventurer parties or do some farportal runs, but most of the time I don't have much trouble pulling it off if I'm trying for it. It's downright easy if you're doing fun stuff like the randboss rando add-on or somethin', too, heh, but it's doable enough even without leaning on rares or randarts.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:31 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:09 am
Posts: 3
Well, i have killed the Master with a restarted rogue.

Its simply insane. Brutal damage, enemies cant target me, a lot of reduction damage protection,... I fell almost cheating. And at the exit of Dreadfell... well, orc breeze in my face. Easy achievement, when i feel that fight is made to kill you.

Crazy. I dont know if any other character is so broken (i only have played fighters by now) but my kudos for OP. Perfect build, recommended for new players like me.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 2:08 pm 
Offline
Low Yeek

Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:02 pm
Posts: 6
GrayStillPlays wrote:
Prodigies
Armor of Shadows: This is kind of the peanut butter to the jelly of the build. Your'e ALWAYS on an unlit tile, although getting some darkness damage to your attacks isn't too hard with gear.


One requirement for this is "Have dealt over 50,000 darkness damage". What kind of gear did you used for this? I can't find any appropriate stuff for my level 35 rogue.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2020 4:37 pm 
Offline
Uruivellas

Joined: Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:00 pm
Posts: 906
I would recommend equipping a weapon or gloves with added darkness melee damage and just hit the training dummy for a while.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2020 6:58 am 
Offline
Low Yeek

Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:02 pm
Posts: 6
Effigy wrote:
I would recommend equipping a weapon or gloves with added darkness melee damage and just hit the training dummy for a while.


That was the solution, thanks a lot. I had completely missed the possibility of dealing damage to the training dummy.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:27 am 
Offline
Halfling

Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:23 pm
Posts: 82
OK, I've come up against the same problem that a few people mentioned upthread, namely, getting Magic 50 to qualify for the Mystical Cunning prodigy when I hit level 25 (which just happened in the Ruined Dungeon). I never bothered to read the description of 'Mystical Cunning' until now, which of course led me back to this thread in despair :-)

I have Magic 13, and I can (at least temporarily) wear gear to get me another +15, for a total of 28 Magic. But I honestly don't know where +22 more points are going to come from. I wasn't saving Magic gear through this playthrough (which is on Normal Difficulty). The stuff in my item vault doesn't have it either.

Does anyone following this build have a suggestion of an alternate prodigy to take? (Armor of Shadows requires Constitution 50, another near impossibility of +28 needed!)

Right now I have the following unlocked:
Adept
Elemental Surge
Flexible Combat
Eye of the Tiger
Swift Hands
Rak'Shor's Cunning
Windblade
Worldly Knowledge

But none of these seem that great for this build. Any suggestions for this awesome Halfling Rogue with poison/stealth? :-)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:35 am 
Offline
Low Yeek

Joined: Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:35 am
Posts: 9
I was building this same thing and was wondering what escorts to take, I'm kinda sad you didn't talk more in-depth about that, but I'm glad to see I was in the right path, and there's a lot of overlap between my nightmare build, and that of an insane winner.

btw, If you're the real graystillplays, big fan. But I'm afraid you'd probably be sad about drowning npc's getting removed, if not, then hello fellow fan of systematic osha violations.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 29 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group