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ToME: the Tales of Maj'Eyal :: View topic - [1.5.x] Class/Race Tier List
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[1.5.x] Class/Race Tier List
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Author:  Mex [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:34 pm ]
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Updated list.

If you want a class to be listed as Tier S you must stream (with chat on) the full run on Madness Roguelike, without using vault. You may use any official add-on otherwise. Using infinite damage exploits or similar exploits due to programming oversights doesn't count.

I can't be bothered to redo AB/AM.

Shadowblade and Necromancer are the other two classes that can probably do it.

Author:  minmay [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:04 pm ]
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Author:  Cathbald [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:25 pm ]
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Author:  Quidix [ Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:31 pm ]
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Those rules are clearer then.

Silly question, but is there is a list of 'official add-ons'? (probably answering my own question here, but I take it it refers to the official DLCs [EoR, AoU] and possessor class add on?)

Author:  btonassse [ Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:06 pm ]
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Hmm funny that Bulwark was probably my easiest Insane win.. I wouldn't consider them C level.. but I guess you did your research, so who I am to argue...

In any case, I actually started winning more when I started ignoring some things that seem to be set in stone when talking about the meta. Things like saves and high Con really help me get far in this game...

Author:  Derael [ Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:03 pm ]
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Okay, requirements for S class are clear, but what is the basis for other tiers? Any specific requirements for class to end up in certain tier?

In particular, why Solipsist/Wyrmic/Gunslinger are rated so low?

And why Arcane Blade/Archmage/Necromancer above Archer and Brawler? I was quite sure that Archer and Brawler are the easiest/fastest classes to complete Insane.

Author:  jenx [ Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:51 am ]
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Author:  ZyZ [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:16 am ]
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Author:  HousePet [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:34 am ]
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Does mindstar mastery from an escort matter when you can just buy it? :?

Author:  anp [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:56 am ]
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Author:  Micbran [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:11 pm ]
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It barely matters and nets you like 0.05 bonus stat mod.

Author:  Derael [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:12 pm ]
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Author:  Jigokuro [ Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:11 pm ]
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Is Ogre still really good with the extra slot not being free? It is only useful at all if you were getting 2/2 of the buyable ones to start with...

Author:  Aesthete [ Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:52 am ]
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TW should be an A+ class:
https://te4.org/characters/150226/tome/ ... 3e6fcf35a7

I only vaulted over the mercy dagger, so madness should be possible without the vault if you hate yourself enough to start over or farm Maj'Eyal patrols if it doesn't drop for you.

I've never streamed anything before, but if I did there would have been little reason for that to make it any more believable if you watched me stream it, since TW is memory leak central with the temporal clones I had to regularly close and reopen the game. I didn't save scum, but it would be hard to tell if I did from a stream due to that problem.

Author:  Kruzifixxion [ Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:56 pm ]
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