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Snarvid

Post subject: Re: [1.5.x] Class/Race Tier List

Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 1:09 am

Spiderkin

Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:42 pm
Posts: 592

Bump cuz I finally got Fortress access on Madness.

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Effigy

Post subject: Re: [1.5.x] Class/Race Tier List

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 1:10 am

Uruivellas

Joined: Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:00 pm
Posts: 931

IMO it's legitimate to use anything other than "cheat" addons (Hulk and stuff like that) or save file editing to win Madness. Using item vault and/or Adventurer class is fine. Mex might disagree, but I think Madness is difficult enough that it warrants using every tool at your disposal.

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Snarvid

Post subject: Re: [1.5.x] Class/Race Tier List

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 3:41 am

Spiderkin

Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2011 12:42 pm
Posts: 592

Great! Early gearing for Oozemancer can be hard due to Antimagic and reliance on Mindstars (oh, early Mindstars, why you so bad?), so vaulting helps a ton.

Just hit 42 during the post-Dreadfell ambush, so have both prodigies before going East. Am playing on Exploration, so won't get knocked out by error, and this will let me see whether there's a limit past which the class simply can't compete or whether it's just gear + skill holding me back on Adventurer.

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posetcay

Post subject: Re: [1.5.x] Class/Race Tier List

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 5:51 pm

Halfling

Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:46 pm
Posts: 100

As far as I know shesh has beaten Madness with Brawler and Sawbutcher, also mex didnt you beat Madness with Arcane Blade? Any reason why those classes arent in S Tier?

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Micbran

Post subject: Re: [1.5.x] Class/Race Tier List

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 5:56 pm

Sher'Tul

Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:19 am
Posts: 1154
Location: Yeehaw, pardner

AB got nerfed in 1.5, Shesh used pre-nerf PES to win sawbutcher (so 1.4.9), and the brawler win Mex doesn't believe in (2%).

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St_ranger_er

Post subject: Re: [1.5.x] Class/Race Tier List

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 10:32 am

Thalore

Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 11:48 am
Posts: 172

Isn't brawlers also got change in 1.5.x?

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Steven Aus

Post subject: Re: [1.5.x] Class/Race Tier List

Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 4:23 pm

Archmage

Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:38 pm
Posts: 350

Yes, they no longer get a big attacking speed bonus from leather gloves and gauntlets, although the game text is still incorrect (the old value is 167% for gloves and 125% for gauntlets, now it is 125% for gloves and 100%, ie. no bonus, for gauntlets).

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jenx

Post subject: Re: [1.5.x] Class/Race Tier List

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:47 pm

Sher'Tul Godslayer

Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:16 pm
Posts: 2263

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sajberhippien

Post subject: Re: [1.5.x] Class/Race Tier List

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:48 pm

Halfling

Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:10 am
Posts: 114

So, I hope this isn't too off-topic, but what could be done to make the undead races into C or B power levels, without fundamentally changing how they work (e.g. allowing infusions or removing the ghoul speed malus)?

Their XP penalty is pretty horrible considering their power, but other than that? It's kinda weird how their talents work differently from everyone else's in terms of minimum levels, by the way.

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Micbran

Post subject: Re: [1.5.x] Class/Race Tier List

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 2:01 pm

Sher'Tul

Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:19 am
Posts: 1154
Location: Yeehaw, pardner

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sajberhippien

Post subject: Re: [1.5.x] Class/Race Tier List

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:01 pm

Halfling

Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2016 11:10 am
Posts: 114

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visage

Post subject: Re: [1.5.x] Class/Race Tier List

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:56 pm

Wyrmic

Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:09 pm
Posts: 273

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Mordy

Post subject: Re: [1.5.x] Class/Race Tier List

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:25 pm

Archmage

Joined: Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:41 pm
Posts: 300

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Quidix

Post subject: Re: [1.5.x] Class/Race Tier List

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 4:30 pm

Wayist

Joined: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:27 pm
Posts: 28

Perhaps we should consider upgrading Wyrmic from Tier C?

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Kruzifixxion

Post subject: Re: [1.5.x] Class/Race Tier List

Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:05 pm

Higher

Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:03 am
Posts: 76
Location: Mordor

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