Class idea! WIP name, Psionic Warden

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Class idea! WIP name, Psionic Warden

#1 Post by NemesisZeru »

Clad in steel armor with mind of steel, these brave knights use their innate psionic powers to bolster their already mighty defense.

Talent ideas:


Sharpened Mind

Psispear: Channel your mental power through a wielded mindstar, turning it into a spear of mental energy. Changes Mindstar stat modifiers to Constitution and Willpower and adds mind damage to strikes. Also increases Physical Power by X and increases weapon damage by X% when using mindstars.\

????: Thrust your Psispear for X% mind and X physical damage. The first enemy hit is pulled to you, slamming against your shield for X more physical damage. This third hit has X% chance of stunning for X turns

Phalanx: whirl your Psispear around in radius X for X% mind damage and X physical damage. Every target hit has X% chance to be dazed for X turns.

Shatter Mind: Impale the target with your Psispear, doing X% mind damage and X% physical damage. If this kills the target, you absorb the foe's mental energies, gaining X Psi and +X% Mind damage for 10 turns. The Mind damage stacks up to X times.


Iron Will

Focused Mind: Gain +X to your mental/physical saves. At level 4, any shield you have equipped can always block mind damage.

Resonance: Blocking an attack inflicts X% of the blocked damage back to the attacker, as mind damage(Had trouble wording this, sorry.)

Psionic Charge: Rush forward, shield raise. Upon hitting the target, a burst of mental energy is release from your shield, doing X% mind damage and knocking all targets X tiles away. The target hit by the charge isn't knocked back.

Inner Fortress: Gain X% mind resistance, and X% of your mental resistance gets added to your physical resistance(Wanna say Resist All instead, but might be too strong?


So...yeah, this is just a random idea I had last night. Was originally going to be using two TK shields, but it's been insisted only Stone Wardens should be ever allowed to do that. Mindstar/Shield is rarely used though, which let to this..

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Re: Class idea! WIP name, Psionic Warden

#2 Post by Faeryan »

I like the general idea. Needs more categories though, to differentiate it from heavy armor wearing Mindslayer.
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#3 Post by NemesisZeru »

Faeryan wrote:I like the general idea. Needs more categories though, to differentiate it from heavy armor wearing Mindslayer.
Of course! Those were my immediate ideas, is all. Still trying to think on more. x3

Had an idea where they discard their shield for X turns and gain an upgraded psispear(Psychic Lance?) But Iunno. Seems like it'd be tricky to figure out.

That said, considering a second psispear tree, since I have more ideas for it. As for the nonnew catagories, they're defitely getting shield defense, but otherwise haven't figured out much yet.

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#4 Post by grayswandir »

Not sure how where this'd fit in, but here's a very rough idea for a talent.
Confidence: (Passive) A strong mind strengthens your body, just as a strong body strengthens your mind. Gain X physical save and X% physical resistance for each beneficial mental effect on you, and gain X mental save and X% mind resistance for each benifical physical effect on you.

Could also maybe rely on % health and % psi instead of beneficial effects.
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#5 Post by NemesisZeru »

A 2h tree(Kinda)! Because diversity.

Mental Jousting

Psionic Lance:Discard your shield for X turns and channel your energy into your Psispear, upgrading it to a Psionic Lance. Psionic Lance attacks do X% more damage, and pierce through targets, doing X% extra damage to the target behind the initial target.
Basically, you ditch your defense for a powerful 2 tile melee attack and extra damage. Might be a sustain? Psionic Lance'd count as a 2h weapon for relevant stuff, despite only being a single Mindstar


Lance Charge: Charge at the opponent, using your mental might to propel you, doing X% Physical and Mind damage. Targets in a cone behind the intial target are shaken by the sheer force of the impact, taking X damage and being...dazed, maybe?


Rallying The Crowds: Let out a mentally-empowered roar. For each target hit, you gain X% physical/mental crit. If it hits nonhostile targets, a similar % bonus to critical damage is given.


Duel: Challenge your opponent to a duel! For X turns, you and the targeted enemy can only damage each other, and you do X% more damage to the challenged foe. Enemies besides the targeted one become nonhostile for the duration.
Basic, but fits the theme. Nonhostility is there so they can't 'interfere' by bodyblocking you from the target or something...and to work with Rally.

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#6 Post by Sirrocco »

Huh. Is an interesting idea. I am in support of it. I'd suggest coming up with a group of potential weapon configurations. Also remember that if you want to borrow any mindslayer skill trees, they'll be getting a TK-wield slot. You may or may not want that.

Note that if you want people to actually use shields, you're going to have to give them a reason for it. In particular, running mindstars means that you have little natural use for dex (as they use will for their accuracy stat) which means that your defense will be low by default, which makes shields even less useful than they would be otherwise. Likewise, it's my understanding that shields are strength-dependent. (something about blocking being a str thing?). If the def is weak because of no dex, and the blockign is weak because no strength, you're going to have to give shields some fairly solid skill support in order to make them at all competitive with a plain old offhand mindstar (and plain old mindstar mastery from the zig).

There are mindstars out there that give bonuses to every stat. I'm guessing that the psispear rule wasn't quite meant for that. Might want to clarify. Also, why will and con? Are you intending to give some sort of class-based con support? That could tie into the shield side of things pretty well, mind - everyone likes con at least a fair bit, and few are going to turn down reasons to like it more.

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#7 Post by NemesisZeru »

Sirrocco wrote:Huh. Is an interesting idea. I am in support of it. I'd suggest coming up with a group of potential weapon configurations. Also remember that if you want to borrow any mindslayer skill trees, they'll be getting a TK-wield slot. You may or may not want that.

Note that if you want people to actually use shields, you're going to have to give them a reason for it. In particular, running mindstars means that you have little natural use for dex (as they use will for their accuracy stat) which means that your defense will be low by default, which makes shields even less useful than they would be otherwise. Likewise, it's my understanding that shields are strength-dependent. (something about blocking being a str thing?). If the def is weak because of no dex, and the blockign is weak because no strength, you're going to have to give shields some fairly solid skill support in order to make them at all competitive with a plain old offhand mindstar (and plain old mindstar mastery from the zig).

There are mindstars out there that give bonuses to every stat. I'm guessing that the psispear rule wasn't quite meant for that. Might want to clarify. Also, why will and con? Are you intending to give some sort of class-based con support? That could tie into the shield side of things pretty well, mind - everyone likes con at least a fair bit, and few are going to turn down reasons to like it more.
Yeah, I was planning on giving them Con support. I figured Will and Con together sort of fit the theme of strong body and strong mind. That said, I forgot about str and shields. A passive could work for that, switching it from str to con or something. That, or the psi-spear passive could simply make dual wielding impossible, although that's not the best approach for it.

As for the multiple configurations, I was trying to give that with the psychic lance tree, with a clear tradeoff of defense for better offense. That said, it's limited duration probably works against it there, so might rework the tree a bit.

As for Mindstars...I honestly have never run a mindstar class that much. Haven't played ToME at all really(At least lately), but I still think the idea could work with some refinement.

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Re: Class idea! WIP name, Psionic Warden

#8 Post by Ezeric »

I just wrote a post about a psi shield, something where you would turn the mindstar into a shield for more diversity with the mindstar as I felt they were lacking in diversity. Could be something to add instead of a base shield tree?

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#9 Post by NemesisZeru »

Ezeric wrote:I just wrote a post about a psi shield, something where you would turn the mindstar into a shield for more diversity with the mindstar as I felt they were lacking in diversity. Could be something to add instead of a base shield tree?
Quite possibly, yeah. C:

Turning one linked psiblade into a weapon, one into a shield, with possible bonuses for the set Mindstars? Seems interesting. C:

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