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Jarinex
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:08 am 
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random_pal wrote:
Jarinex wrote:
Personally, I would rather have multiple talents be good and have synergy, rather than have one amazing talent and the rest of them be underwhelming.


That's what marauder 1.4.9 had. A lot of small things that made it pretty awesome from mid-game on. When I say "designed around something" I don't mean a single talent.


Oh sorry, I misunderstood what you said. This is why I shouldn't say anything lol
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voltteccer
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:27 am 
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Basically 1.4.9 Marauder was like a really cool and fun Adventurer build, and 1.5 Marauder is like a really lame and unimpressive Adventurer build.
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ZyZ
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:52 am 
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When i try to leave possessed body something goes wrong and some talents are not removed from my character

Code:
##Use Talent Lua Error##   T_ASSUME_FORM   Actor:   4163   ZyZ
Lua Error: /engine/interface/ActorTalents.lua:322: /engine/interface/ActorTalents.lua:295: /engine/interface/ActorTalents.lua:162: /engine/Entity.lua:1002: attempt to index local 'base' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
   /engine/Entity.lua:1002: in function 'recursive'
   /engine/Entity.lua:1009: in function 'recursive'
   /engine/Entity.lua:1040: in function 'removeTemporaryValue'
   /engine/interface/ActorTalents.lua:579: in function 'unlearnTalent'
   /mod/class/Actor.lua:4441: in function 'unlearnTalent'
   /mod/addons/orcs/superload/mod/class/Actor.lua:168: in function 'unlearnTalent'
   /data-possessors/timed_effects.lua:264: in function 'deactivate'
   /engine/interface/ActorTemporaryEffects.lua:218: in function 'removeEffect'
   /data-possessors/talents/psionic/possession.lua:102: in function </data-possessors/talents/psionic/possession.lua:100>
   [C]: in function 'xpcall'
   /engine/interface/ActorTalents.lua:160: in function </engine/interface/ActorTalents.lua:149>
   At [C]:-1
   At [C]:-1 error
   At /engine/interface/ActorTalents.lua:322 useTalent
   At /engine/interface/PlayerHotkeys.lua:170
   At /engine/interface/PlayerHotkeys.lua:162 activateHotkey
   At /engine/HotkeysIconsDisplay.lua:384 onMouse
   At /mod/class/uiset/Minimalist.lua:1789 fct
   At /engine/Mouse.lua:58


Do you need save or this is enough ?
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purge383
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:57 am 
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I am not sure how I did it but I was playing with the graphics options a lot reloading my game a bunch and I noticed that the Trueshot talent on my archer became permanent and the countdown for the duration goes into the negatives. It also throws an LUA error if I click the skill to use it again. I submitted that. Here is a link to the save file, press the download button in the top right: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9jwXH ... sp=sharing

Also, increasing font scaling causes the main menu and talent menu to have cut off buttons/text.
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HousePet
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:04 am 
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astreoth wrote:
somebody forgot to update the sun paladin escort

Is there actually a problem, cos it should still work.

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ster
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:24 am 
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random_pal wrote:
Apparently, the reason for this nerf was that NPCs using it were too dangerous.

ok yeah this was it
but that made absolutely no sense because of the way armor works meaning melee randbosses will either one shot you or do nothing and no amount of extra hits can change that, the fact you can wait the buff out, and also that it doesn't scale specifically badly anyway

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Mordy
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:00 am 
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The new chants give armor and hardiness :D

Also, you'll find a lot more armor on items. Just now in plain Nightmare in Old Forest I got a rare to drop boots with 22 armor.
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random_pal
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:00 am 
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ster wrote:
random_pal wrote:
Apparently, the reason for this nerf was that NPCs using it were too dangerous.

ok yeah this was it
but that made absolutely no sense because of the way armor works meaning melee randbosses will either one shot you or do nothing and no amount of extra hits can change that, the fact you can wait the buff out, and also that it doesn't scale specifically badly anyway


Yup, it definitely wasn't in my "top 10 dangerous things in tome" and I'm not sure I ever died because of it.
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ster
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:12 pm 
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<ster> wait shibari made rare items not awful
<ster> nightmare- loot might actually be good now
<ster> senon must be rolling in his grave


didn't realise this change would have so much impact, greater egos on rare items and less useless properties improves the general quality of loot in lower difficulties hugely and makes drowning for randboss/unique not as required. this is good.

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purge383
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:47 pm 
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Acidic Skin talent for oozemancer gives you "acidic disarm" on getting hit but the talent doesn't mention that it disarms.

EDIT: I also think it would be a good QoL feature to make up a keyword to describe when spells aren't blocked by other creatures such as Reclaim. Makes spells incredibly more powerful since you can shoot over the trash between you and purple mobs.


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Sheila
PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:58 pm 
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purge383 wrote:
Acidic Skin talent for oozemancer gives you "acidic disarm" on getting hit but the talent doesn't mention that it disarms.

fixed :)

ster wrote:
<ster> wait shibari made rare items not awful
<ster> nightmare- loot might actually be good now
<ster> senon must be rolling in his grave


didn't realise this change would have so much impact, greater egos on rare items and less useless properties improves the general quality of loot in lower difficulties hugely and makes drowning for randboss/unique not as required. this is good.

"Random clarification: Rare item buff didn't turn out to be a forced greater ego, its still 1 ego with no chance of greater, just a lot more randart powers" -Shibari

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astreoth
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:17 am 
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problem with sun paladin escort is that it gives you the individual chants not the new talent that gives you all 3 chants
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purge383
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:19 am 
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So I just had this exchange with a rare orc warrior. I had antimagic shield/acidic skin up and moved 5 spaces away from him giving him a few free turns by mistake since autocast cancelled my infusion. It spammed a bunch of stuff and arcane damage to him. Does it look correct because it seemed odd?


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purge383
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:34 am 
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Sheila wrote:
purge383 wrote:
Acidic Skin talent for oozemancer gives you "acidic disarm" on getting hit but the talent doesn't mention that it disarms. fixed :)



Thanks, also acidfire says it creates a "blinding, corrosive cloud" but it doesn't seem to affect LOS or blind enemies.

EDIT: I think it does blind but has a low chance. Should probably say the % chance in the description.
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Mordy
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:43 am 
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purge383 wrote:
So I just had this exchange with a rare orc warrior. I had antimagic shield/acidic skin up and moved 5 spaces away from him giving him a few free turns by mistake since autocast cancelled my infusion. It spammed a bunch of stuff and arcane damage to him. Does it look correct because it seemed odd?

Looks like an infinite feedback loop due to interaction of Martyrdom vs the new Antimagic shield.
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