[embers] Life support suit talent does not scale with tier

[Kror]

I crafted a life support suit on tier 5 and it still made "+1 life support". All other steam crafted items scale up their granted talent (e.g. all hand tinkers).
Needless to say I was majorly disappointed when I learned all those talents and wasted 4 ice ant stingers on that item.

[darkgod]

Life Support is an injector talents, it has no business having a level over 1

[Kror]

With all the things you require to make this, I excepted the talent itself to be the usp for crafting a high tier. It's definitely not a bad item by itself with that talent beeing level 1, but for the cost (5 recipes, 9? generic points, 4 ice ant stingers) I was just a bit underwhelmed after I invested my generics for that.

[darkgod]

Talent level means nothing, I could make it display level 5 and have the same effect.
There are no other craftable tiers but tier 5.
As for being underwhelmed .. you mean by the armour that makes yourself nearly unkillable ? heh

[Kror]

As for being underwhelmed .. you mean by the armour that makes yourself nearly unkillable ? heh

The thing is that it requires many skill points, which could have been spend on e.g. thick skin etc. I said the armour itself is not bad for tier 5, good even. It's just that is also costs things to get it besides the drop. Just my opinion.
I would have rather spend the generics on something else than this and just wear my chromatic harness.

Anyway: Just thought it was an oversight. Hence the report.

[HousePet]

You did get a lot more than just that item for your investment of points though.

[Kror]

You did get a lot more than just that item for your investment of points though.

I did not. I got 0 useable tinkers from all my points in explosions and chemicals. I only spend those points for the armour. The 5 points in therapeutics were definitely worth the 4 prequestie salves alone, though I did not have tier 5 ones at the end, because the armour ate up 4 of those very rare ice ant stingers.
I think those points in explosions + chemicals were 6 only, not 9, but you might understand my "underwhelmed feeling" when I spend 6 points and 2 tier 5 salve (had do use my low tier unstoppable/frost salve afterwards) to get that item.

This was a personal shadowed experience though and I am sure there are more uses for those 6 points in general and I might just have been unlucky only getting 9 ice ant stingers in my run. I should not have included my very subjective feeling presented like an objective fact, which was not my intention. It was wrong.
I was just excited to see what 5 recipes, some rare ingredients and 6 generics would get me more than the unique armour I was already wearing, that just dropped. That was "underwhelming". Not the item/points itself. The item is good and in general you probably get more than that item from those 6 points. which what you probably meant with "you".

So on a sidenote: ice ant stingers are pretty rare in the orc campaign

[ibanix]

> I got 0 useable tinkers from all my points in explosions and chemicals.

Then you simply had bad luck from random generation of schematics. That's the nature of tinker investment; you may or may not get something out of it, based on drops. Play accordingly.

[HousePet]

Sound like you were unlucky with schematic drops then.

[0player]

Chemistry is I'd say up there in being one of the best Tinker talents in terms of recipes it's associated with.