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Re: New wiki for te4.org

#16 Post by greycat »

The one that's linked from the... front... errr...

It was linked from the front page....

http://te4.org/wiki/WikiConversion

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... Zcnc#gid=0

Anyway, it's not being updated by me. Can't speak for anyone else.

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Re: New wiki for te4.org

#17 Post by XLambda »

Hm. I'll go over it and check stuff.

EDIT: Looks like the vast majority of stuff has been ported. Apart from some modules that aren't even developed anymore, and some stuff that has been consolidated into bigger wiki pages.

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Re: New wiki for te4.org

#18 Post by greycat »

XLambda wrote: EDIT: Looks like the vast majority of stuff has been ported.
I just finished up the Races, after you wrote this. I'm starting on the Zones now. I'd say there's still a good chunk of content left to do.

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Re: New wiki for te4.org

#19 Post by XLambda »

greycat wrote:
XLambda wrote: EDIT: Looks like the vast majority of stuff has been ported.
I just finished up the Races, after you wrote this. I'm starting on the Zones now. I'd say there's still a good chunk of content left to do.
Oh, okay. I didn't consider that. I can't actually see the old wiki articles any more, so I don't really know how much is left in terms of page contents. I was just checking whether pages exist.

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Re: New wiki for te4.org

#20 Post by darkgod »

now you can :)
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Re: New wiki for te4.org

#21 Post by Sradac »

yay!

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Re: New wiki for te4.org

#22 Post by Strongpoint »

I'd really like to see exact formulas in talents section of the wiki, taken directly from the source code by someone code literate

I mean to additions to this
[qoute] Description Conjures up a bolt of fire, setting the target ablaze and doing (25-290) fire damage over 3 turns.

At level 5, it will create a beam of flames.

The damage will increase with your Spellpower. [/quote]
Add the formula, so anyone can calculate what fire damage will be with talent level X and spellpower Y

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Re: New wiki for te4.org

#23 Post by Mewtarthio »

The formula is combatTalentSpellDamage. In this case, the base is 25, while the max is 290.

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Re: New wiki for te4.org

#24 Post by greycat »

As Mewtarthio said, the formulas are insanely complex. Even if you can read Lua and C, you still have to track them down across many different source files in different directories, and the resulting "formula" isn't expressible in a single mathematical function.

OK, that aside, I think most of the old ToME4 content has been moved over. Some of it was just plain moved. Some was moved and cleaned up a bit. Some was moved and cleaned up a lot. I made up some new sentences to fill in some of the holes that had never been filled in yet.

I did not check anything to do with development, addons, modules, etc. That's simply not part of game that I'm competent to deal with right now. The one exception to this is the "How to compile" page that I just moved.

I also don't know how much of the "history" of ToME1-3 is salvageable from the old wiki. As I recall, the information was extremely sparse to begin with.

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Re: New wiki for te4.org

#25 Post by Mewtarthio »

The most I can say is that max is the value at talent 5, power 100 (before rescaling) and that damage scales linearly with power and the square root of talent level. I have no idea what base represents, though. Is darkgod willing to talk about why the formula is the way it is?

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Re: New wiki for te4.org

#26 Post by darkgod »

I send a big, huge thanks to all the people who helped porting over, and who contribute to the wiki. This is a huge effort that has grow very fast. Thanks !

As for the why of the formula, it's calibrated to make early points worth more than late points and to prevent linear scaling; and yeah it's very complex :)
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Re: New wiki for te4.org

#27 Post by ibanix »

Greycat and Cryomaniac have been doing a great job adding content. I've been adding as I can.
Please help with the ToME wiki!

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Re: New wiki for te4.org

#28 Post by greycat »

Even the previous wiki was missing huge amounts of stuff. Most of what we're adding now is new content that was never on the old wiki (artifacts, bosses, quests). It would have been a nightmare to add these things on the old wiki without templates, and redirects, and working style markup, and, and, and ....

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Re: New wiki for te4.org

#29 Post by darkgod »

:)

Speaking of which the site is up on the new server, however nginx is being silly and refuses to serve a basic css, the wiki works but is not looking nice; worry not I'm fixing it :)
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Re: New wiki for te4.org

#30 Post by greycat »

I noticed. ;-)

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