Blood of life does not work

[gogis]

... on ghouls? I found it and ended up in a situation where I needed to use it and found out the hard way it does not work on ghouls. :/ Just disappointing since it is an artifact drop from a boss. This particularly character was disappointing in many ways but this incident tops the list. First death at level 12 in the old forest as a nest of snakes/insects/wolfs mobbed him to death because his 2x Phase doors chose to place him in their midst.

Actually i used it before death on my ghoul berserker and i had menu choice to use it instead of normal life. You sure you quaffed it?

[Zonk]

Feature, not bug - you're undead. It's not completely useless though, you can sell it for a lot of gp in a shop.

[edge2054]

Actually i used it before death on my ghoul berserker and i had menu choice to use it instead of normal life. You sure you quaffed it?

If this worked I that's a bug. Have to be alive for the blood of life to return you to life.

[edge2054]

You drank it, why wouldn't it be used up?

[yufra]

In summary, it would be nice for the BoL to give feedback to the player if it is going to work or not. Looking at the code there is already a log message in place when you quaff the potion, telling you whether or not it affected you. Is that not sufficient? If not, what do you propose?

[martinuzz]

Heh. It's a mistake you will only make once. That's how you learn.

[yufra]

It should appear in the message log, the bottom left window of your ToME window. I just tested it in-game and it does indeed appear in both cases, living and undead. I understand your frustration at losing a character, but you missed the message. Feel free to suggest something that helps avoid missing such important messages.

[Grey]

I personally think Blood of Life should instantly kill undead ;)

[Sradac]

I personally think Blood of Life should instantly kill undead

+1

ToME is too easy and needs more humiliating, punishing ways of death.

sure there are hard fights, but outside of fights the game is actually very easy. what happened to the days of roguelikes that were actually hard, actually made you think, and punished you for doing stupid things or plain not paying attention?

Go walk down stairs while you are Overburdened! in ADOM, go push an exploding barrel into lava in DoomRL, sit out in the sun as a vampire in *bands, I know nethack had plenty of those but never could get into nethack.

[Grey]

Nethack had a few too many of those...

Hmm, if Blood of Life killed undead it'd be great if you could wield it as a weapon and kill a big boss with it... So you'd get the choice of free life or free death.

[Sradac]

single use as well, that way the master wont be TOO trivial with it.

[greycat]

Nethack has SO many instadeaths that I can't even enumerate them all. Here are a few:

• Attack a cockatrice bare-handed.
• Pick up a dead cockatrice bare-handed.
• Sacrifice a dead cockatrice on an altar bare-handed.
• Fall in a pit trap while wielding a dead cockatrice.
• Walk over a tile containing a dead cockatrice while blind and bare-handed.
• Fall down stairs (due to slight Burden) while wielding a dead cockatrice.
• Eat cockatrice meat from a tin.
• Get slowed by a cockatrice's attack, and fail to undo the effect (there are two ways, one of which is explained in-game by the Oracle) within 3 turns.
• Get hit by a wand of death, without reflection or magic resistance.
• Get slimed by a green slime, and fail to figure out the ONLY way to remove the effect within the next 3 turns.
• Get Int-drained too many times by a mind flayer.
• Get drowned by an eel or other grabbing water monster.
• Get hit by black dragon breath without reflection, disintegration resistance, cloak, body armor, or shirt.
• Stand on a drawbridge and let a monster zap a wand at you, exploding the drawbridge.
• Get hit by the touch of death attack, without magic resistance.
• Get unlucky when falling into a spiked pit trap, or when being hit by a poisonous monster, without poison resistance.

OK, so some of those aren't really INSTA-deaths, since you have 3 turns to fix it, but still....

[Zop]

A few betas ago, I recall an odd message once from drinking the BoL wherein it seemed like it did not work when drunk. It wasn't identified, so I wondered if I managed to use it incorrectly. I'm fairly certain that I did not have the revive option that time, as well.