Beta 12: No boss in Carn Dum?

[merc]

Is Carn Dum 7 the boss level? I can't remember. Either way I just reached Carn Dum 7 and there was no sign of the boss and no stairs down, so either the stairs or the boss didn't spawn. Looked around with vision and sense, couldn't find any sign of either, came back later and still no boss. The level had an escort quest and and about 3 monster pits, don't know if that was connected to the bug or not, but there you go.

[PowerWyrm]

Maybe the boss died? It can happen sometimes (Bill drowning in Trollshaws for example).
I've also noted a strange bug with how monsters keep track of the player's position. Once in Carn Dum I found a random boss (Warg Lord) which I left alone while killing some stuff. After returning to the room where the boss was, I was not able to find him... I had to explore the whole level and found him on the total opposite of the room where he was the first time. This bug is happening more often in the Prides, because the stairs are generated next to a wall. Basically, what happens is the following:

step 1: you kill a monster (x)

#..............................#
#...........o....###.......#
#...........o....#..#.x...<#
#...........o....###....@#

step 2: all monsters are aware of your position and try to reach you... but use the wrong path

#..............................#
#...<-- o.......###.......#
#...<-- o.......#..#.....<#
#...<-- o ......###....@#

step 3: all monsters are now stuck on the left side of the level

#..............................#
#o..............###........#
#o..............#..#.......<#
#o..............###......@#

[merc]

I cleared and searched the whole level twice and didn't find his loot, and the quest wasn't marked as completed so I'm pretty sure he didn't die and I scanned the whole map several times as well so I don't think he was just hiding in some weird place. Bill can drown in Trollshaws? That's awesome. Big dumb trolls.

[Final Master]

I've ran into a dead minotaur boss a few times without even touching him. I assume it was all trap death, because I've (if this has happened) would never have seen him, and just happened to find it's loot on the floor.

The thing with the prides lining the walls is actually rather funny, and I thought it was odd behavior when I first saw it. But then I rationalized it. Their orcs. They're semi intelligent strategically. They block both stairs. It makes sense...

[greycat]

I just did Carn Dum level 7 with an Archmage, and found no boss. There was no escort quest, and no vault or monster pit or anything. Quest log still shows the quest as unfinished.

[madmonk]

Well I just did this and I got a quest and the Boss!

can someone post the contents of their Stdout for DG and the coders to look at...

[greycat]

http://wooledge.org/~greg/Helix.bz2