Strobing Crash since 1.7

[born2hula]

Hey guys,

I've had an odd crash happening across multiple characters since 1.7 dropped (steam, windows 10). When it happens the screen strobes between the game and black while frozen. Alt tabbing and back gives me the cursor on a black screen. I need to use task manager to close the game.

The first time it happened I was trying to access the microtransaction store (not repeatable). It's happened a few other times seemingly at random. It now happens to my latest character (halfling skirmisher female created after 1.7) every time she tries to equip a new helmet. Different helmets make no difference. Unequipping the old helmet first doesnt help but doesn't trigger a crash. She's worn helmets previously without issue. All my mods are disabled.

I cant upload my log because its too large for the forum Important part of log seems to be:
Lua Error: /hooks/hero_tooltip/load.lua:118: attempt to call field 'setUniformColor' (a nil value)
At [C]:-1 setUniformColor
At /hooks/hero_tooltip/load.lua:118
At [string "return function(l, self, data) local ok=false..."]:1 triggerHook
At /mod/class/uiset/Minimalist.lua:974 displayResources
At /mod/class/uiset/Minimalist.lua:2011 display
At /mod/class/Game.lua:1933

Thanks in advance!

[darkgod]

That's an addon bug I'm afraid

[Horken]

I had that bug as well, caused by negative life. The new zomnibus fixed it.

[born2hula]

That's an addon bug I'm afraid

Hmmm, I thought I'd turned them all off but I've realised the real problem is I cant disable or enable any addons. I thought I was testing this with addons disabled, but they're still there. Disabling them in game menu makes no difference, nor does unsubscribing from them in the workshop. Any ideas? I've tried disabling/enabling steam and I've even done a full reinstall but I've still got mods enabled that I unsubscribed from months ago!

[darkgod]

Hum show me a screenshot of your addons menu, disabling them should work just fine.
Note however that once a savefile is created it will always use the same addons it was created with, no matter if you disable them or not

[born2hula]

Hum show me a screenshot of your addons menu, disabling them should work just fine.
Note however that once a savefile is created it will always use the same addons it was created with, no matter if you disable them or not

Ahh, I didn't realise that. So there's no way to remove mods you've subscribed to in the past? I should just put everything on "Manual:Disable" and roll a new char?

[smithfield]

What I am about to describe will work correctly in a limited set of circumstance.

The file:
../T-Engine/tome/save/<yourcharactername>/desc.lua

has a line

addons = { 'nameOfAddon', ... }

If you edit this line you can both add and remove addons from existing saves.
If you are adding an addon, you have to have the correct shortname.

But. !!!

Only addons that have no impact on the tome game environment.

This means UI addons only, generally. If you remove something that DOES impact
the game env. it will, upon loading corrupt the save and there's no way to fix it -
putting the offending addon back will not work, AFAICT.

If, for example, you left the Mage Knight addon in and tried to remove it because
Mage Knight NPCs were killing you, it would corrupt the save and crash. Any addon
that adds classes or items will also do this.

I do this all the time when I forget to turn on 'opaque-tooltips' for example.


However, in your case, the problem is the Zomnibus addon. It is safe to add and
remove the zomnibus addon this way, but it is not necessary. The problem is the
'combined toolbar' setting. Just turn it off in the game options menu (and restart?
don't remember) and you're good.

[Zizzo]

It is safe to add and remove the zomnibus addon this way, […]

Are you speaking from experience on that point? Because ZOmnibus is big enough and complex enough that I would not be at all surprised if that trick broke messily for ZOmnibus.

The problem is the 'combined toolbar' setting. Just turn it off in the game options menu (and restart? don't remember) and you're good.

Is this still a problem in the latest ZOmnibus release (17.1.3)? I thought I'd fixed that a couple releases back.

[smithfield]

After I wrote that I thought that I should restate it. No, I'm not sure that
the big Z can be dropped in and out. I *think* I did it when we went from
1.5.10 to 1.6, but I'm not sure.

I think the OP simply has an slightly out of date version of Zomnibus. Easy
to do these days things are changing so fast. You do know that Zomnibus
does not update automatically, as most other addons do, right?

The error in the log is the same one that I saw with the same problem, so
the fix is relevant and it might even be correct.

[born2hula]

After I wrote that I thought that I should restate it. No, I'm not sure that
the big Z can be dropped in and out. I *think* I did it when we went from
1.5.10 to 1.6, but I'm not sure.

I think the OP simply has an slightly out of date version of Zomnibus. Easy
to do these days things are changing so fast. You do know that Zomnibus
does not update automatically, as most other addons do, right?

The error in the log is the same one that I saw with the same problem, so
the fix is relevant and it might even be correct.

I don't use zomnibus so that's not the issue. I have subscribed to a few of the component mods in the past (go to landmark and inventory sort order are the only ones I have "active", but thats not much of a distinction at the moment). What part of the mod causes the issue?

Edit: I see you said "combined toolbar". I dont have anything like that. What part of the mod is that from?

[smithfield]

I don't know. I use the combined Zomnibus.

I had exactly this same thing happen with exactly the same lua error and making the change in the zomnibus settings fixed it. But you're not using it so we have the same symptom w/ a different cause.

How about this. Go into the save of the character w/ the helmet which triggers the crash and fetch out the addons line from its desc.lua. If you post that, it might be possible to work out what's at cause. At the moment, it just guessing.

[Zizzo]

Edit: I see you said "combined toolbar". I dont have anything like that. What part of the mod is that from?

The stack trace you showed is for a bug I fixed (I hope…) in Pragmatic Heroism, which should provide the game option "[ZOmnibus] | Combined life bar".

You do know that Zomnibus does not update automatically, as most other addons do, right?

I… was not aware of that, no. That would have to be an issue with te4.org or Steam, though; I can't imagine why this addon would have problems when others don't.

[smithfield]

ok. I did some testing.

My current install is a clean d/l of 1.6.7 from about 2 or 3 months ago
which was updated via the launcher when 1.7 came out. Have done nothing
unusual to it.

I removed all addons that are not dlc or part of the original game.

I went to te4.org and d/l previous versions of
White Monk
Talent Point Planner
and
Zomnibus

I placed these in the addon folder, opened the game, and nothing updated.
WHAT?
Then I opened the addons dialog and saw that I'd turned auto update off
(because of the new release I'd done this recently). I turned it back on and
backed out of the dialog.

As soon as I did, White Monk and only White Monk immediately updated. Neither
the Talent Point Planner nor Zomnibus updated.

I created a character w/ all three enabled. Exited the game.
I went into the characters desc.lua file and deleted zomnibus.
Opened the character again, no problems. Exited the game.
I went into the characters desc.lua file and added zomnibus back
Opened the character again, no problems.

I have tested and confirmed what I said.

And to add to this it seems to be all your addons and not just
Zomnibus. I only looked at one, but I have faith in random samples.

And, its not steam. I only use te4.org.

You don't suppose that this has something to do with the letter 'z' do you?

Where do we post te4 bugs anyway?

[Cathbald]

yah i can confirm none of zizzo's addons ever updated automatically for me and other addons do