1.6 Tinker character not spawning with APE

[Snarvid]

I have had this work fine in the past, but now my Psyshots are not starting out with an Automated Personal Extractor. This is a problem for tinkers.

[Snarvid]

And, now it's fixed? Unclear why this happened, but happened 2-3 restarted characters in a row.

[darkgod]

Uh, I certainly didnt change anything between your tests.
Can you try to replicate it again, and note the exact circumstances if you are able to ?

[Snarvid]

Things I remember:
1. I was Drem.
2. My previous character had died and I had the opportunity to restart a new character or the same, I think I said new.
3. I might have also used a name that I had used in a previous version and chose to override.

Will let you know if it happens again.

[Ocd595]

I've also encountered this issue with Drem tinkers. I haven't had a Drem tinker successfully start with an APE. Went to check other races with unique starts, Doomelfs/Yeeks/Undead all seem fine. And Krogs get one, so it's not something localized to Forbidden Cults on a whole. Hope that helps with narrowing down the problem?

[Snarvid]

Happened again with a Drem.

[Wombat]

This is still happening in 1.6.4 for a drem psyshot

[starsapphire]

Yes, I think I have found out the cause of this bug.
APE is defined as the starting equipment for all tinker classes, including randbosses.
However you won't see them on boss most of the time, because it can't drop (no_drop = true), and you will take the first APE if you are a tinker, and latter won't get spawn.

Unfortunately, Kroshhkur's merchants are rank 3.5, who can roll random classes.
If they roll a tinker class, they may take the APE for themself, and you can't get you own APE, because it is an artifact that won't appear twice.



Also, you won't get it back by killing the said NPC, because APE will never drop anyway.

This also explained why restarting the game will fix this bug, for you reroll the class of merchants. Also why 1.6.1 will make this problem worse, for there are 4 tinker classes now, increased from 3.

Maybe we need to call darkgod or razakai for this.

[Snarvid]

Very cool, thank you!