Stealth and efficiency levels.

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Stealth and efficiency levels.

#1 Post by Tom »

Hello.

I have during this game put a LOT of effort in stealth.
Meaning I kept all +CUNNING items and at lvl up put most of my stat points in CUNNING.

At lvl 29 and after clearing out Dreadfell I want to see how my stealth soon will do.
Checking I had was stealthy with an efficiency of 56.
I put on an amulet of CUNNING +4.
My efficiency did not change. Was still 56.
I put on a lantern of guile +4 to CUNNING.
This raises my efficiency to 62.

So it seems STEALTH efficiency is calculated in steps rather than linear.
Does anyone have the CUNNING levels for the different steps of efficiency?

EDIT: One more thing. At efficiency level 62 and CUNNING at 99 I put on a pair of stealth boots.
+6 to stealth level the description says.
Alas, nothing happened.
I am still at efficiency 62.

EDIT II: A +4 to CUNNING belt made my CUNNING lvl 103.
This raised STEALTH efficiency to 69.
Removing the stealth boots did not change this.
Are the boots bugged? Or are they capped? Or what?

Tom

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#2 Post by Grey »

Equipment modifiers to stealth power won't show up in the talent description.

Not sure why your stealth increases in increments with Cunning though - it should be linear. Are you sure when you put that amulet on that you weren't removing something else that affected the efficiency?
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#3 Post by Tom »

Grey wrote:Equipment modifiers to stealth power won't show up in the talent description.

Not sure why your stealth increases in increments with Cunning though - it should be linear. Are you sure when you put that amulet on that you weren't removing something else that affected the efficiency?
They should show up. I consider it a bug if they do not.

The amulet I removed was Gold amulet of teleportation. (green)
No other mods than the teleport ability and teleport immunity 50%.

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#4 Post by Tom »

Grey wrote: Not sure why your stealth increases in increments with Cunning though - it should be linear.
Could it have to do with slow or no updates from raising stat points?
I did have 6 stat points I put in CUNNING right before swapping the amulets.

Does the stealth efficiency notice immidiately when raising stats and swapping eq?

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#5 Post by Postman »

On unrelated note - how effective stealth with non-maxed cunning in latest betas? I'm running shadowblade with dex/will/const emphasis, and want go stealth/cunning after dex is maxed. Is low-mid cunning stealth useful in the Far East and later at all? Or I will be better with no stealth at all and raise magic instead?

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#6 Post by lukep »

Formula for stealth power is

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	getStealthPower = function(self, t) return 4 + self:getCun(10) * self:getTalentLevel(t) end,
It could be that the self:getCun(10) part of it is rounding down (or possibly up), which would explain why it goes up by 6.5 every time you pass another 10 cunning.
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#7 Post by tiger_eye »

fixed in svn (as a result of this post). I guess DarkGod didn't find the time to reply :wink:

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#8 Post by Tom »

tiger_eye wrote:fixed in svn (as a result of this post). I guess DarkGod didn't find the time to reply :wink:
Thank you!

What does svn mean?

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#9 Post by fearoffours »

svn is an abbreviation of Subversion, a system of keeping histories files and all their changes, used by programmers for keeping track of their code.

If something in ToME is "fixed in svn" it means the code has been changed to fix the problem, but normal users won't see the fix until the next game release (which will be beta 29, in this case!)

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