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[Offline] Live stream of Madness Beta Test

#1 Post by Stition »

Hello, if anyone wants to revel in the tedium that is my play you can watch me stream live here:

http://video.gamecreds.com/qc7hbd9ygx2h ... -4-Stition

Madness beta testing!


Useful information:
Track is what lets me see every enemy, it's essential on insane. Try to get a good watchleaders lantern, they get up to talent level 4.0, if you can't unlock field control.

Game Settings:
32x32 tile size
Icons hotkey toolbar icon size 32
HUD style Minimalist

Tutorials:
How to fight the master on insane as a cursed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQPsM2Hw ... e=youtu.be

Pet abuse in Gorbat Bastion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gUxRMPFuo4

Using beckon to position enemies in Vor Bastion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxvCfYMc4XI

Arcane Blade Victory (28k flurry):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0svL1y22 ... e=youtu.be
Last edited by Stition on Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:29 pm, edited 31 times in total.

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Re: Live stream of insane roguelike

#2 Post by grmblfzzz »

I'm spying on you Stition, all your secrets are belong to me!

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Re: Live stream of insane roguelike

#3 Post by jenx »

Stition wrote:Hello, if anyone wants to revel in the tedium that is my play you can watch me stream live here:

http://video.gamecreds.com/qc7hbd9ygx2h ... -4-Stition

I play every class very similar, so the stream might help people see how to not die constantly on insane difficulty.

Trying to complete DarkGod's challenge of beating insane with 13 classes so he'll release a higher difficulty, we need more people to help! Currently have 8.

This is my first time streaming anything, so if it's terrible let me know, any advice/criticism is appreciated.

I'm currently playing a Thalore wyrmic, though I don't have high hopes for the class on insane.

Onto dreadfell!
Can you elaborate more on how you play every class similarly?
MADNESS rocks

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Re: Live stream of insane roguelike

#4 Post by Stition »

It's just using tentacles/summons to grab aggro from creatures before you nuke them, and running when they target you. Outside of shadowblades that's how I've played every class, even berserkers.

Tomorrow I'll try to finish dreadfell, just have The Master left, but want to hit 35 for the good item vault loot. Wyrmics are not very good, I'm hoping the temporal form prodigy fixes my poor damage.

There will be less farming in the future I promise, and more chances to see a terrible death!

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Re: Live stream of insane roguelike

#5 Post by jenx »

and from another post:

With this character:

http://te4.org/characters/8874/tome/787 ... 512db5db1a

some questions:
why did you pump STR so high, and neglect CON?
why do you get 1/1/1/1 in various trees, like nightmare, slumber, feedback, and yet others you get some talents to 5?
what were your main talents for attack? distortion?
when did you pump solipsism talents? I hold off, to make sure I can cope with burst damage, but do you go straight to 5/1/5/5?
how do you get willpower to 179.28? you get 62 WIL from equipment, you have two heroism infusions, but neither is currently activated. so 64 + 62 = 126 - so how come you have 179?
how do you get cunning to 252.28? You get about 140 from gear and carried items I think, but that would give 200 total, not 252.
how do you get global speed to 282.14? Again, you have no effects other clarity, which only gives +44%
MADNESS rocks

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Re: Live stream of insane roguelike

#6 Post by Stition »

My solipsist is bugged. When you have psi-blades sustained and use projection, all kinds of crazy stuff happens. I didn't notice this bug until I was in the Vor Armory. Temporal Wardens are similarly bugged, which is why I can't bring myself to play them.

I always pump strength as my 3rd stat on every character for the carrying capacity (more abuse of swift hands).
Cunning is 2nd stat on every character, since it's used for track and eden's guile (track is the most important thing in any character).
The only stat that's different is my primary stat.

I get 1 point in all the situational class talents. Inner demons is great.
I mainly used a movement infusion after hero/eden's guile, and would ravage>distortion bolt. That would kill all non-bosses.

I lost my ring of the dead and blood of life in fearscape invasion portals on that guy, solipsists are bugged in more ways than I can identify.

Fixed the horrible resolution! I'll upload some tutorial videos of how to do some of the more difficult areas on insane, have one of The Master but it's in the old terrible resolution.

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Re: Live stream of insane roguelike

#7 Post by grmblfzzz »

There's a few other ways that most classes are played similarly. Such as:

Infusions. I find it difficult to concieve of not having 2 movement and a heroism infusion on any late game Insane dude. The other two vary somewhat depending on class.

General order of progression.

Required utility items/skills needed for the harder area's. Some are so necessary that you just have to farm till you get them.

Focus on either a De-aggro or 1-shot protection (i.e., Tree's or boneshield/unstoppable/etc).

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Re: Live stream of insane roguelike [Online!]

#8 Post by Stition »

I'll be clearing breeding pits>braigh>alt bosses> hopefully vor bastion today

Chances to die in braigh's lair and the bastion if I get to it.

I can also commentate if people are interested, to better explain the logic behind what I'm doing.

Edit: Success, unfortunately for those couple viewers!
Tomorrow I'll head into the warrior bastion and High Peak, high chance of dying so tune in!

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Re: Live stream of insane roguelike [ONLINE] cursed now

#9 Post by Stition »

After my success as a wyrmic, I'm now playing a cornac cursed. After many failed attempts to start one I finally got going. I've uploaded a video of the strat I used to kill the master, it's in the first post and can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQPsM2Hw ... e=youtu.be

This shows what I mean when I say I play every character the same.
I use tentacles to draw aggro, hit him a couple times and run before I get targeted. His freeze could easily kill me if it crit.
Cursed can used tentacles to generate hate, so it's basically a limitless resource.
Beckon is probably my favorite ability in the game, it allows you to fight creatures 1 at a time, or just pull the dangerous one's out seperately.

I'll try to add some commentary if there's some interest. Still trying to improve the stream quality and make it more watchable.

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Re: Live stream of insane roguelike [ONLINE] cursed now

#10 Post by jenx »

Stition wrote:After my success as a wyrmic, I'm now playing a cornac cursed. After many failed attempts to start one I finally got going. I've uploaded a video of the strat I used to kill the master, it's in the first post and can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQPsM2Hw ... e=youtu.be

This shows what I mean when I say I play every character the same.
I use tentacles to draw aggro, hit him a couple times and run before I get targeted. His freeze could easily kill me if it crit.
Cursed can used tentacles to generate hate, so it's basically a limitless resource.
Beckon is probably my favorite ability in the game, it allows you to fight creatures 1 at a time, or just pull the dangerous one's out seperately.

I'll try to add some commentary if there's some interest. Still trying to improve the stream quality and make it more watchable.
Very interesting. Can you turn off the music to reduce the file size and increase quality. It is very hard to work out what you're doing, without full screen, but then it's pretty much a blur.
MADNESS rocks

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Re: [Offline] Live stream of insane roguelike

#11 Post by Stition »

Ya, sorry if the video quality is bad, it's my first youtube video. I'll fix it soon and add commentary explaining what my logic is.
Game creds crashed on me today, I'll try to get the stream up later.
I updated the first post with my game settings, I don't use any UI mods.

If anyone can think of any other important information that should be included please let me know.
Also if anyone has ideas for areas where I should make tutorial videos. I can't make any for dreaming horrors since I just run from them.

I think the stream is up as of 4:30pm pst, if it's inaccessible please let me know, I've been having horrible internet cache problems.

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Re: [Offline] Live stream of Madness Beta Test

#12 Post by MoloMowChow »

How do you reduce tiles/UI sizes. I don't see the settings in options.

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Re: [Offline] Live stream of Madness Beta Test

#13 Post by Stition »

Under graphic mode you can adjust tile size (how big or small everything is).

Shrinking the UI: adjust "Icons hotkey toolbar icon size" in game options. Everything else can be resized by unlocking the interface and doing it manually, I'm not sure where this option is on standard tome UI since it's been so long since I've moved things.

Hope this helps.

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