Shadowflame

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Orangeflame
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Shadowflame

#1 Post by Orangeflame »

For those of you who aren't familiar with it:
Shadowflame is a damage type that is half fire, half darkness; there is nothing special about it.
AFAIK, it is only found on "infernal--" greater-ego staffs, and from the "Darkfire" corrupter spell.

I believe it is meant to be a 'demonic' fire-like damage type, but demonfire (Infernal Breath, Fearscape, 'Fearstar') fits that niche more closely.
I think it would be a good idea merge the two damage types, and changing all shadowflame to demonfire.

Pros:
One fewer special damage types that isn't really special.
More demonfire damage, which I believe is cooler, and more worthy of being a special damage type.
Corrupters would be able to use Darkfire without blasting themselves into pieces half the time.

Cons:
Corrupters would gain another heal that also deals damage.
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Re: Shadowflame

#2 Post by Doctornull »

I like this idea.
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Re: Shadowflame

#3 Post by jinsediaoying »

So a damagetype that deals half fire and half darkness and heals demons?
Good idea

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Re: Shadowflame

#4 Post by Faeryan »

Didn't even notice there's a separate demonfire damage type, but having one less special (predictive text input suggested sexual, then social, before it changed it to special :p) damage type part sold me this idea.
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Re: Shadowflame

#5 Post by Orangeflame »

jinsediaoying wrote:So a damagetype that deals half fire and half darkness and heals demons?
Demonfire deals 100% fire damage, which heals demons for the amount that would have been dealt (I think it is also affected by healing modifier).

Most people know it as 'what fearscape does'.
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Re: Shadowflame

#6 Post by jinsediaoying »

Orangeflame wrote:
jinsediaoying wrote:So a damagetype that deals half fire and half darkness and heals demons?
Demonfire deals 100% fire damage, which heals demons for the amount that would have been dealt (I think it is also affected by healing modifier).

Most people know it as 'what fearscape does'.
I know it, but since this new demonfire also take the place of shadowflame, I guess it is good to let it have the feature of shadowflame.

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Re: Shadowflame

#7 Post by Sirrocco »

I'd agree with that. For simplicity's sake, i'd suggest making it just fire with the demonheal, renaming Darkfire appropriately, and possibly rebalancing it a bit (as it now both heals them rather than harming them and deals pure fire damage - easier to gear for)

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Re: Shadowflame

#8 Post by Sradac »

There used to be a Doomsayer addon (really good, too bad it dosent get developed these days) that had a lot of Demonfire damage. it was good stuff. I'd like to see more of it.

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