Which Egos Need Fixing?

[Doctornull]

Let's talk about which item egos in the game need some help, or need to be replaced, or need to be created.

- Which are overpowered? (e.g. magewarrior short staff)

- Which egos are underpowered?

- Which item categories need better egos? (e.g. leather armor)

Thanks!

[The Revanchist]

This might just be bad luck, but I find very few "good" egos for Leather Boots.

Also, more Mindstar egos would be welcome, even if they're rare. There's only... eight or so?

[stinkstink]

Fun as they are, shortstaves in general are overpowered as hell and could probably stand to have some kind of drawback.

On the other hand, I've never liked any item that provides numerous resistances/damage bonuses in negligible amounts - dragonslayer's helms, augmenting/decomposition mage hats, etc. Excluding shields, there's almost always something more build-relevant to use instead.

The resource recovery egos on charms also feel pretty useless to me, as do striking/void wands (volcanic wands are fine though)

[The Revanchist]

On the other hand, I've never liked any item that provides numerous resistances/damage bonuses in negligible amounts - dragonslayer's helms, augmenting/decomposition mage hats, etc. Excluding shields, there's almost always something more build-relevant to use instead.

Robes of chaos, anyone? Or do those get better with material level? Because linen robes of chaos are just silly.

[ghostbuster]

I completely agree for the mindstars. I have the impression that they are the only items where any artifact is by far better than any simple or double ego or even randart. For most other items, you may find egos that are in some way competitive with some artifacts. Also, set activation of mindstars is very unclear.

Egos for charms or diggers are generally weak and useless, yes. Lites are better.

Regen egos should be bosted. Warriors can get 12 HP/turn regen. What is the point to get a 0.15 regen on an item?

[Doctornull]

Fun as they are, shortstaves in general are overpowered as hell and could probably stand to have some kind of drawback.

I plan to remove them and replace them with "Scepters", which are staff-like in terms of egos and damage buffs, but which use normal Weapon Mastery and can't be Channel Staff'd.

On the other hand, I've never liked any item that provides numerous resistances/damage bonuses in negligible amounts - dragonslayer's helms, augmenting/decomposition mage hats, etc. Excluding shields, there's almost always something more build-relevant to use instead.

I hear that.

The resource recovery egos on charms also feel pretty useless to me, as do striking/void wands (volcanic wands are fine though)

Heh, I can get good use out of Striking but not much from Volcano.

Robes of chaos, anyone? Or do those get better with material level? Because linen robes of chaos are just silly.

I get the feeling the Robe of Chaos was supposed to actually give random +/- values to all the various resists, which is kind of an interesting idea, maybe, but the current version always has the same -resists so it's just kind of a waste.

I completely agree for the mindstars. I have the impression that they are the only items where any artifact is by far better than any simple or double ego or even randart. For most other items, you may find egos that are in some way competitive with some artifacts. Also, set activation of mindstars is very unclear.

Yeah, Mindstar sets are kind of opaque and I get errors when I quick-swap matched sets while using Psiblades.

The Mindstar set code is unique to them, so I hesitate to remove that unless nobody likes it. (I personally don't like it much.)

Egos for charms or diggers are generally weak and useless, yes. Lites are better.

IMHO charms & diggers & other tools should have comparably useful egos, even if they're all weak. I think the useless wand and torque egos can be fixed.

Regen egos should be bosted. Warriors can get 12 HP/turn regen. What is the point to get a 0.15 regen on an item?

I hear you.

[stinkstink]

Robes of chaos, anyone? Or do those get better with material level? Because linen robes of chaos are just silly.

Robes of Chaos have that spellcrit and spellsurge bonus that makes them worth using.

Heh, I can get good use out of Striking but not much from Volcano.

Volcano can get absurd when coupled with lots of talent-on-spell gear. Fiery Choker in particular causes each rock that hits to have a 10% chance to spawn another volcano

[Razakai]

Light armor in general needs alot of better egos, I'm sure this has been discussed.
I'd like to see some Greater generic mage prefixes for robes too - of Angolwen/Linaniil/Power are great suffixes, but I've never seen anything better than Shimmering or Spellwoven. There's stuff like Sunsealed and Ancient, but a general +elemental damage or the like would be nice.
For Massive armor, Dragon is just too good. Large amounts of resists for common damage types/debuffs, good physical stats and -cooldown to a vital talent. In comparision Implacability, Command etc are far worse. I'm hesitant to nerf it though as I do like it, maybe just buff up the others or make a new suffix for Massive with equally good stuff.
Heavy could do with a unique ego or 2.
Regen sucks, agreed. Also, I don't like pure +saves items, but that might be personal preference.

[jenx]

I completely agree for the mindstars. I have the impression that they are the only items where any artifact is by far better than any simple or double ego or even randart. For most other items, you may find egos that are in some way competitive with some artifacts. Also, set activation of mindstars is very unclear.

Egos for charms or diggers are generally weak and useless, yes. Lites are better.

Regen egos should be bosted. Warriors can get 12 HP/turn regen. What is the point to get a 0.15 regen on an item?

No randart mindstar comes anywhere near the mindstar artifacts for one basic reason: the game artifacts give a bonus to wis and often cunning. mindstar mastery boosts this considerably.

so by game end, you are getting +30-40 will and same for cunning.

[ghostbuster]

I completely agree for the mindstars. I have the impression that they are the only items where any artifact is by far better than any simple or double ego or even randart. For most other items, you may find egos that are in some way competitive with some artifacts. Also, set activation of mindstars is very unclear.

Egos for charms or diggers are generally weak and useless, yes. Lites are better.

Regen egos should be bosted. Warriors can get 12 HP/turn regen. What is the point to get a 0.15 regen on an item?

No randart mindstar comes anywhere near the mindstar artifacts for one basic reason: the game artifacts give a bonus to wis and often cunning. mindstar mastery boosts this considerably.

so by game end, you are getting +30-40 will and same for cunning.

Yes, and on top of that artifacts have powerful activations, while no ego have an activation (except to complete a set). More, base damage is superior for artifacts, especially in the lower tiers.
The problem is that it leads to some uniformity. In the vault, most level high level chars using mindstar wear artifacts, while for other weapons randarts are quite common. Maybe the artifacts should be slightly nerfed and the egos boosted to have something more balanced.

[Orangeflame]

Some Power and Save boosting egos are only useful in your first dungeon, and are quickly outmatched and cast away. Later on, they become a joke because they're scaling is terrible, if non-existent:
of Fate (for staves)
Savior's (for jewelry)
of Power (for jewelry)
of the Giants (for belts)
of Transcendence (for belts)

There are probably more that I can't think of right now.

[Delmuir]

Cold damage boosts… I find not nearly enough of this, especially on powerful gear.

Also, resistance cap boosts… I'd like to see a bit more gear with small bonuses to a resistance cap. I generally think that if you add +5% to "x" resistance cap then the gear should come with at least a +10% of "x" resist.

I'd also love to see HUGE boosts to one spell… I'm not sure how much but I regularly see +.14 and stuff like that to entire categories but how about a much bigger boost to a singular spell? Maybe +1.5? Maybe that isn't big enough or too big… such a bonus could also work in conjunction with a negative effect in order to balance it out...

[SageAcrin]

I don't feel like short staves need a full dedicated subset of gear for them.

It then floods the drop pools with an item that is either fairly niche(optimally) or extremely centric and obsoletes staves(non-optimally). It's bad for the same reason that standardized whips and tridents is; Too many tridents and whips relative to the amount of people that want to use them.

Magewarrior Short should lose its spellcasting bonuses, though. Physical boosts seem to be enough, especially given how Reavers dualwielding staves is getting popular.

[Stition]

Weak ego's:
helms and boots are pretty weak in general. Wizard hats are the exception, they're best on almost everyone, but caps and helms are pretty bad.

Strong ego's:
armor of thunder, it's way too good.
Crit chance/crit mult ego's are way too good. Warmaking gloves and cloaks of conjuring/backstabbing are also incredible. Battlemaster cloaks got a huge nerf with the scaling change and aren't very good anymore.

I'm fine with dragon/hardened armor, but agree that they're really good.

[Requia]

On the other hand, I've never liked any item that provides numerous resistances/damage bonuses in negligible amounts - dragonslayer's helms, augmenting/decomposition mage hats, etc. Excluding shields, there's almost always something more build-relevant to use instead.

I had good resutls with the resistance half on my win, 45%+to almost all resists (dark/light/temporal were the weak points) on top of my all resist. Better than half damage in most cases is pretty cool and was critical to beating Atmathon (come to think, if I'd had even a little dark resist I'd probably have gotten through with one less death). Random damage boosts... they did make the golem's eyebeams nice (takes three different boosts), but I'd probably have been better served making the golem a bigger damage sink.