Siding With "Bad" Guys

[Red]

Two main instances come to mind: Krogar, right after you get to the east, and Tannen, once you conquer his tower. In both of these cases, whenever I get here I want to be able to go side with them if I choose to. With Krogar it's especially blatant, since both him and Fillarel tell you to help them, but there is only one option: helping Fillarel. (Who I usually kill afterwards for loot and justice.) As for Tannen, before I read the demon note I actually liked the guy. I wanted to know where exactly he was getting his bodies (grave robbing is shady, but acceptable. Bandits I've killed by the hundred, so no complaints there. Townsfolk? Okay, too far.), but assuming he was reasonable in his procuring of supplies, I'd gladly work with him to help against the demons.

Really, these are just two big cases where there seems like there should be a choice, and we aren't given one. While siding with Krogar would change nearly everything after arriving at the East and would obviously require massive amounts of work to get done, how hard would it be to let us side with Tannen? Have it be something like with the Grand Corruptor, so you can't just side with him to dodge the fight (perhaps you have to kill the Drolem and then he'll be willing to work with you) but that wouldn't alter a ton about the game. It'd be mostly dialogue changes, to reflect who's actually helping you, as well as possibly a quest about sabotaging the demon's new portal toys.

As a note, though, I really do like how you're given the options of siding with the Grand Corruptor and Slasul. I just want more of that. (And a way to avoid hurting Slasul, because every damn time some AoE I didn't even realize was happening hurts him and there goes my trident.)

[Faeryan]

Tannen could possibly have his chance but siding with orca I believe is reserved for its own expansion that is to be released when ready.

[Red]

I thought I had heard mutterings about that. And I look forward to it greatly-of all the powerful people in ToME lore, I like Garkul the best. Sure, he murdered tens of thousands with his bare hands, had hundreds of thousands killed with his armies, burned entire cities and every last living thing inside... But most other people in lore are just as bad, if on a smaller scale. And they're selfish-Garkul is leading his oppressed race to victory. The other races made enmies of the orcs, and now the orcs are their enemies. You reap what you sow.

Plus Garkul is just so damn awesome, and in a game where you'll have a four digit or more body count, morals tend not to stack up against awesome. His lore will make hair grow on your chest-even if you're a woman. Women, be careful when learning about Garkul the Devourer.

Finally, I was incredibly confused about siding with the orca. I would fully support a side quest where you find killer whales to work with you against Slasul, though.

[Doctornull]

siding with orca

God damn those killer whales.

[Kuroto]

God damn those killer whales

I personally can't wait for the Dolphins vs Whales xpac to come out. Sea'Eyal is best Eyal