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So I think I am just being a Newb, but...

#1 Post by Bladyn »

I just started playing today and am in the "Lost Merchant" Quest. Killed the Assassin Lord by the skin of my teeth, then I decided to check out one of the four rooms on the second level of the Tunnels. Unfortunately the Merchant was following me and the rooms are only one space wide. I had thought if you move into a "Friendly NPC" they were supposed to swap places with you. No such luck and my only right-click options are "Move to" and "Shield Bash". So... How do I get him to move so we both do not starve (figuratively) to death down here? Quite frustrating...

Thanks in Advance

Oh... the version is the default one which comes up when installing the current version. Beta15b.

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#2 Post by Frumple »

I... huh. An unintended consequence of making it so you can't shift the merchant into a corner before attacking the assassins. As is, I don't think you have any option for getting out of your situation that doesn't involve either killing the merchant yourself (which will prevent you from getting the big-ish reward) or enabling debug mode* and cheat-teleporting your way to freedom. Unless you happen to have a phase door or teleport rune available or the free talent points (and sufficient level/stat requirements) to unlock something that'd allow you to teleport in a similar fashion.

As is, you're probably going to have to kill the merchant. Tough luck :(

*Give the forum a search for 'debug' and go back a few pages in the results. Somewhere in there is instructions on how to enable debug mode. After that, you just control+left click somewhere on the map.

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Re: So I think I am just being a Newb, but...

#3 Post by Gwai »

I would use debug mode. No shame in cheating to fix something that is surely not intended behavior.

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#4 Post by Bladyn »

Debug mode sounds good to me in this case. Being that this is my first game I doubt I'll be reaching the end without dying. Heck I am in "Discover Mode" already. So...

How does one enable thus "Debug" mode? :) Hmmm.... Never mind. I'll use "Search" and be all "Self Actualized". ;)

BTW: As it is now the Merchant stood there and was a "Meat Shield" between the Assassin Lord and myself while I rested my Stamina all the way back up, so I think there is still a problem with how he moves. I was not even trying to use him that way, it just happened. I would think shifting the Merchant into a corner and then protecting him would actually make sense.

Cheers...

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#5 Post by greycat »

Well, the issue was that in previous versions, you'd appear on that level, with the merchant and the assassin lord and all the bandits standing still. And you could move them all around, anywhere you wanted, except the assassin lord. They'd all stand there impassively, doing nothing, until you actually attacked someone or initiated conversation with the assassin lord.

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#6 Post by Sirrocco »

There's another weirdness, based on your faction. If the merchant likes you a lot, he'll jump into the fight, and get himself killed. If he's pretty ambivalent about you, then he stays out of the fight - which paradoxically makes the fight a lot easier.

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#7 Post by Bladyn »

OK. So I finally found the instructions on how to use "MinGW" to run TOME with GDB.
Is that now the same thing as "Enabling Debug Mode"? It seems like potential overkill.

There is a post from way back in 2007 which talks about just adding a file:
To enable it add a file named "tome.cheat.cfg" in your HOME/.t-engine/4.0/settings/ directory

Now that looks like a UNIX type path and there is no HOME in Windows.
Neither is there a "Settings" directory in the Windows installation tree.

So....

Am I heading down the correct path with MinGW? Or am I racing full speed toward oblivion?
Even if I am, what the heck do I do next? I do not see any information on how to fix myself.

Thanks in Advance...

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#8 Post by Frumple »

Since this is in general discussion (Should probably be in bugs, honestly...), on go the color spoilers of semi-uselessness. Highlight to read, etc.

You are after the second thing you found, the tome.cheat.cfg.

HOME is a generic thing referring your documents folder. C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\T-Engine\4.0\settings is where you'd be aiming for in windows XP. If you're using vista+, look for a folder <Something>\T-Engine\4.0\settings that has any or all of the following files:

aa_text.cfg
background_saves.cfg
boot_menu_background.cfg
fbo_active.cfg
music.cfg
particles_density.cfg
resolution.cfg
shaders_active.cfg
sound.cfg
tome.allow_build.cfg
tome.gfxmode.cfg
tome.minimap_mode.cfg

You will create a file named tome.cheat.cfg in that folder. Use the text editor of your choice to add the line 'tome.cheat = true' sans apostrophes to that file. Nothing else needs to be in the file. Save. Debug mode will now be enabled.


The MinGW enables a different sort of debug mode. You'll only need that if you run into crashes or whathaveyou that the regular stdout.txt or stderr.txt files don't catch. It won't help you get out of your predicament.

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#9 Post by Bladyn »

Thank you very much. That did it!

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