Betatest 1.3 ! We need moar souls !

[Zicher]

Hey guys,
1.3 looks sweet, can't wait to unlock Ogres (btw. I met some in Elvala).

One small thing: Now, when entering Tier 1 "too easy" dungeons, you can either stroll down or stay on level 1. That itself is a very nice feature. But the wording may use a bit of improvement.

Now, the dialog text reads "This zone is so easy for that you stroll to the last area with ease." As the player now has a choice in this matter, perhaps "... that you can stroll ..." sounds better to me, and instead of buttons "Stroll" and "Stay there" perhaps "Stroll down" and "Stay up" may be better to avoid confusion.

Yeah, nitpicky, I know .

[Zireael]

Right when I wanted to update my Crusader Kings II and the AGOT mod...

[mikekchar]

Hey guys,
Now, the dialog text reads "This zone is so easy for that you stroll to the last area with ease." As the player now has a choice in this matter, perhaps "... that you can stroll ..." sounds better to me, and instead of buttons "Stroll" and "Stay there" perhaps "Stroll down" and "Stay up" may be better to avoid confusion.

Yeah, nitpicky, I know .

Not nitpicky, I think. I was just about to report a bug that it said that I strolled to the last area and I ended up in the first area (not noticing the choice and hitting escape )

I want to echo the general approval of this release. The new icons are really nice too!

[0player]

Cast Cease to Exist on something while its arrows (maybe other projectiles?) are in flight and when it dies and time rewinds the projectiles stay in place, motionless. Impacts whatever walks over them.

Unable to reproduce. Losgoroths and crystals died en masse, but unable to reproduce, flat out. If you can send the save, I'd be much obliged (I have the suspicion about what this might be)

[edge2054]

One more EDIT: My character leaves a strange after image. Is Celerity from Chronomancy/Speed Control doing this? Looks a little buggy. http://oi57.tinypic.com/20p4x06.jpg (The after image only appears for a moment).

I get a glitch with the celerity visual effect, at least I think I do. When I move i get one blue and one yellow box that are slightly larger than my characters doll. I guess it's supposed to be a kind of motion blur effect but right now it looks a bit weird.

Celerity uses standard motion blur. There's a bug though with motion blur and some aura effects (namely Stone Skin). I've never played with custom tiles maybe motion blur and custom tiles are having issues too.

[edge2054]

Empower from the tree Chronomancy/Spellbinding does not seem to affect Temporal Hounds. I have it level 3. It should increase my spellpower by 32% I think. The Temporal Hounds stats display does not change at all when I empower the spell even though it scales with spellpower. Also, I can empower Spacetime Tuning, Temporal Retrieve and Haste which are not affected by spellpower. This isn't really a bug, but I think it would be nice if those spell wouldn't be selectable by empower since empower has no effect on them.

Temporal Hounds work off base spellpower to prevent Paradox cheese as the values are set upon summon and don't update dynamically. I'll probably convert it over to just use Magic.

As for the rest Empower has no way of knowing rather or not something uses spellpower. I could go through and flag every talent I suppose. I'll have to think about it.

EDIT: Also Temporal Bolt does not damage the hounds unless you target an hound directly. If you use the boomerang effect it passes through your Hounds without harming them. (Which is nice! I'm just not 100% sure it's intended since the hounds get bonus temporal resist when you increase the skill level)

Hmm.. I'll look at it.

EDIT2: Temporal Fugue in Chronomancy/Timeline has a typo. It's written "recieved" instead of "received".

Thanks

EDIT3: I'd like to know if Resistance Penetration affects the hounds. =)

Yup.

[glabe]

Temporal wardens skill invigorate has stamina regeneration but the class doesnt have any skills that uses stamina.

[glabe]

Temporal wardens skill invigorate has stamina regeneration but the class doesnt use any stamina.

[Jurriaan]

Is going down a stair enough to get experience? My log reads

Ran for 43 turns (stop reason: at exit).
There is a previous level here
Welcome to level 2 [Beta Character]
Beta Character has 3 stat points(s) etc

That would give 'stair scumming' an entirely different meaning....

[edge2054]

In the dwarf starting zone you level up when you go down stairs since your buddy is an xp thief.

[The Selfish Gene]

The Selfish Gene: Those are for mouse gestures, but you should see colors and stuch, can you screenshot it please ? and also give me the te4_log.txt

It looks like this: http://oi60.tinypic.com/duxie.jpg (I can only make straight lines and it feels like I'm on a big grid).

EDIT3: I'd like to know if Resistance Penetration affects the hounds. =)

Yup.

Sorry, I just want to precise. I was asking if my temporal resistance penetration carries on to the hounds damage like damage increase does. I find them interesting, but I wonder if they can survive more than a moment and deal damage during the end game.

Now, the dialog text reads "This zone is so easy for that you stroll to the last area with ease." As the player now has a choice in this matter, perhaps "... that you can stroll ..." sounds better to me, and instead of buttons "Stroll" and "Stay there" perhaps "Stroll down" and "Stay up" may be better to avoid confusion.

The stroll text is indeed a little weird. But I think "Stay up" would seem weird too. I'd just write "Stay here". "that you can stroll" would indeed be better however. I'd like to have the option to never scroll. I never ever skip a dungeon like this.

[The Selfish Gene]

Celerity from Chronomancy/Speed Control does seem to cause the afterimage in this screenshot: http://oi57.tinypic.com/20p4x06.jpg

I'm not sure why there is a blue square (Maybe because of my sustain?). There doesn't seem to be one on my new character. I'm not sure I like the graphical effect however. With the blue square it looks buggy when I move and auto explore. Without it it mostly looks laggy in my opinion.

Also, the after effect can bug even without the blue square: http://oi60.tinypic.com/qqbvq8.jpg (It creates after images to places I've never been)

EDIT: Strength of Purpose in Chronomancy/Temporal Guardian requires 18 magic to get the first skill. Usually skills require 12, 20, 28, 36, so I don't know if it's intended to be 18, 20, 28, 36. Also all other skills have "- Level 0" requirement. Strength of Purpose does not display this (this doesn't really matter I guess).

[Effigy]

Techniques/Unarmed Training also requires 18 Cunning for the first talent, whereas most require 12 in the relevant stat. That isn't new in 1.3, but it's a related case. Personally, I think those talents should be changed to use the normal stat requirement scaling.

[Robsoie]

On that beta , i'm running a Shalore Oozemancer (trying to unlock the Ogres) , i have faced crash of the "t-engine.exe encountered an error"-type (with no ingame error message) when doing my usual Slime Spit shot followed by an Acid Splash on the enemy face.
A type of crash that i never had on any previous versions with the oozemancers.

- i had this a lot in the Norgos Lair, when doing the combo on either a shivgoroth or some rare/unique that was spawned

- i just got one in Old Forest, in the minivault that contain an undead that has cold powers , can't remember the monster name , after shooting it 1st with a Slime Spit , then when using Acid Splash on it, instant crash.

Unfortunately it never happened in the 1st level of those dungeons, so after the crash all i could load was me at the 1st level of those dungeons, further levels were never generated the same and can't find a reproducable way then.
And unfortunately, none of the logs have anything at the time of the crash, i guess it's because it's crashing without the usual ingame "want to send it" error message

But in Norgos Lair (the variant with the shivgoroth) , i had crashes a very lot.

In case it's related to some of the settings, my graphics ones are all set to "disabled" as i prefer it that way


edit : just got another one in Maze (the normal version), after defeating the minotaur boss, i got a rare/unique generated by a chest, and got the game to crash again, i took a screenshot in case it may contain something useful

[Stuntofthelitter]

0player - Seems that it can only happen with arrows, here's a save where I just recreated it: http://gatheringspot.org/offsite/temp/d ... efreak.zip