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Re: Today I was instagibbed by.. *Help us Balance Random Eli

#91 Post by tylor »

Frenzied sand drake. And close call with reflect shield troll mage boss in Trollmire.

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#92 Post by evouga »

A Skeleton Master Archer (Corrupter) dazed, hexed, and hit me for 700 damage. (Instagibbed while auto-exploring Ancient Elven Ruins).

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#93 Post by sehnsucht »

Orc grand master assassin Archmage, it seems that spells will also benefit from stealth.
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#94 Post by HousePet »

Lake Nur 2
I'm level 18
Salura the squid is level 19
I took 166 nature damage, then was critted for 221 acid damage, in one turn.
I'm guessing it was Slime Spit (3) and Acid Beam (3)
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#95 Post by Umbrall »

Level 9 marauder worm mass used a Skullcracker of 245 damage.

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#96 Post by ShotgunJustice »

Spells on monsters do too much damage.

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#97 Post by Hachem_Muche »

ShotgunJustice wrote:Spells on monsters do too much damage.
Monsters use the same game mechanics as the player.

When posting these reports it's helpful if you include:
Your level/class and the zone you're in.
The NPC level (and if it came from a vault)
What ability(s) it used on you. If possible, try to inspect the NPC and determine what talent level it had in each problematic ability (from the talent tab) and the appropriate damage modifier (from the Attack tab)
Post the last few lines from your combat log showing the damage done to you. (This helps identify the talents used if it's not otherwise clear.)

Any other factors that you think made it overpowered, like extreme speed, or ignoring your defensive abilities, etc.
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#98 Post by Infinitum »

The Destruction Orb guardian. level 46 Dwarfen Cursed. It certainly wasn't a OHKO, and yeah I think the late game needs a buff as much as anyone. But a 14000 hp Demon with Fearscape? What the eff?

EDIT: Oh and it seems to have a metric shitton of VIm as well, since my plan A was to repeatedly manaclash it (lvl 5, superpower, max Willpower etc). No go though, and along with some unsavory use of a Wild infusion even my consant Regeneration couldn't keep up. How the hell are low damage output classes supposed to outlast that (running is always an option, but it's still a gotcha and notoriously more difficult than the other guardians)?
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#99 Post by evouga »

Worm That Walks is, for some reason, much much more dangerous that other horrors of similar level. Mainly, it has a ridiculous talent that can deal hundreds of damage per turn as a DOT.

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#100 Post by Crim, The Red Thunder »

Corrupted Oozemancer. Ooze seed hit for over 300, followed by a crit ooze beam for also over 300. Between the two, I was taken from 90% or so health to nothing in a single turn (with leftover damage to spare). And I had middling nature resistance as well. (Less then 50, more then 25.)
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#101 Post by greycat »

SHARD

FLUCKING

SKIN.

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#102 Post by darkgod »

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#103 Post by Suslik »

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1100 damage in one turn right after digging stopped in dreadfell

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#104 Post by grmblfzzz »

@Suslik: I'd like to point out a few things relating to that death.

1) Those are out of depth greater multi-hued wyrms you're fighting. Did they come out of a vault? They are kind of supposed to hit like trucks.

2) You definitely didn't get 1-shot, you got hit at least 3 seperate times. Firebreath by a GMHW, Lightningbreath by a MHD, then what looks like a melee from another GMHW or maybe the same on. So, at least 3 hits from out of depth scary things.

3) It's possible that they actually got a couple turns, but that has to do with the way Dig/Auto-explore/etc work, when it is supposed to stop when you see something interesting. Not all that inoften it'll actually move an extra square than it should (perhaps lag?), meaning you'll get the chance to get hit a couple times. An issue with that game aspect, not really mob power. :)

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#105 Post by SageAcrin »

What actually happened is that he ran into the end of the boxes vault(a ton of 2x2 chambers with one piece of loot in each, that you have to mine one diggable wall to proceed with), which, at a few specific boxes, drops multiple MHWs on you that get a free turn on you the moment you mind down a wall, unless you mine it from a diagonal. Looks like one of their breaths critted.

It's kinda a bad vault, since the (so-so) loot's not worth the tedium and, unless you remember it really well and can avoid their rooms, the loot isn't worth dealing with those Wyrms for even when you're not getting one-shotted. (I think it's an Angband reference vault; Angband vaults sorta translate poorly to ToME.)

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