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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:58 pm 
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Thalore

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And, according to above, if I'm playing on Insane I should avoid Cloaking Device? Is that a general "stealth doesn't work on Insane"? Would a PES trigger make it viable or not?

The main point was to stack Antimagic Shield with Automated Cloak Tesselation and Molten Iron Blood to see whether I could make someone durable enough to try Insane with, so it doesn't kill the character concept for me if Stealth doesn't work, but having yet another tool in the box to get away and reset cooldowns would be very welcome, and if I'm already unlocking the category for ACT it seems worth a try.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:58 am 
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I'm not actually sure if Cloaking Device is useful on Insane or not. I just don't like things I can't rely on and stealth is one of those things. At least on Rogue, Stealth feels much weaker than it should be just by looking at the numbers. Sometimes it works great, sometimes enemies see through it at 5/5. If you're unlocking the category anyway, it can't hurt to float a few points in and see for yourself.

If you go Cornac, the damage reduction stacking build you have in mind should work though you will have to forego either Fungus or your fifth Inscription slot for it.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:40 pm 
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Just won my first insane game with an Antimagic Fungus Psyshot. Thanks for the help from the guide.

For what it's worth, I think in retrospect I would have been better off speccing Metalstar as you suggest. I ended up putting the second point in Inhale Vapours to make up for lacking Steamstar - the steam generation jumps from 8 to 20 with a single point, which can be handy. If I dropped a point each from Inhale Vapors, Instant Channeling, Mind Injector, and Forced Gestalt I probably would not have noticed the losses but been able to afford 3/1/1 in Metalstar. Still, worked as it was.

https://te4.org/characters/4806/tome/b1 ... 501a3a07a4

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 3:30 am 
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I've won insane rl twice (cornac then thalore...yeek will be next :P) with antimagic fungus psyshot and roughly following this build set up. Both could clear orc pride vaults and ambushes purposely not attacking, just passing turns/rotating defenses letting mechanical arms kill everything while almost nothing could budge my health bar. It was absolutely silly, my snoozemancer had nothing on these guys.

The only difference between cornac and thalore in practice is no nightmare/inner demons for thalore, the final fight just took noticeably longer with thalore without it.


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