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 Post subject: negative vim regen?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:02 pm 
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Wayist

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Why has my character -39 vim regen?

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 Post subject: Re: negative vim regen?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:11 pm 
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Uruivellas

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Probably, you are sustaining Osmosis Shield that drains 3 vim per turn (as indicated in the talent description).


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 Post subject: Re: negative vim regen?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:24 pm 
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It's -39/turn, not -3. With Osmosis Shield it becomes -42.
My stamina also wrong, it's abnormally low.

I don't know what happened, everything was fine until now.
I don't use addons.


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 Post subject: Re: negative vim regen?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:46 pm 
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Vim has a very very very nasty interaction with equilibrium.
A do not know exactly its effect on vim drain, but that may be the explanation.


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 Post subject: Re: negative vim regen?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:05 pm 
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It's a known, rare bug.
It also happen with forcefield to mindslayer, and with momentum to marauder.
Sometimes a sustain is stopped in a particular set of circumstances and every drain and sustain cost stays, and is even multiplied. It's a bitch and it's not even guaranteed a mod can fix it.

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 Post subject: Re: negative vim regen?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:19 pm 
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DGDGDGDG (part 2)

alright, here is a second thread talking about it.

So another double post for me, sustain on autouse cost/drain don't get properly removed when force-deactivated, blah blah blah

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 Post subject: Re: negative vim regen?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:15 pm 
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There was a similar bug with steam after EOR came out. Rarely, after a character death steam generation would be vastly reduced or go negative for no apparent reason, regardless of sustains or steam generators. All 4 of my first EoR characters got it by the time they reached the end game.

Thankfully the bug seems to have been squashed in the last few versions.

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