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 Post subject: Exploiting Drem
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 12:54 pm 
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The signature Drem ability is Frenzy: for three turns, the first time you use a class ability its cooldown is not triggered. Does not apply to inscriptions, effects which don't take a turn, and abilities with fixed cooldowns.

So... what benefits absurdly when double-cast? I suspect Drem will be very popular with the Paradox Mages going forward since double-casting Attenuate is basically their dream.

Are there other abilities that stack like Attenuate in exciting ways? Does double-casting Expose Weakness give you twice the stacks, or are you just overwriting your existing stacks with the new ones? Does Dwarven Split give you four halves? Do the Defiler disease-based abilities suddenly get even better if you can double-cast them?

In the absence of exciting stacking, which abilities (presumably ones with long cooldowns) are so amazing that being able to use twice in the normal cooldown gets to "ridiculously good"?


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 Post subject: Re: Exploiting Drem
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 1:43 pm 
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On the Paradox Mage front, Cease to Exist would seem to be a strong choice, in either order (Frenzying Cease or Ceasing Frenzy).

If it works on Assume Form, and I can't see why it wouldn't as written, a Possessor who can leave a body and immediately jump into a new one without a cooldown seems like it might have some applications.

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 Post subject: Re: Exploiting Drem
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 6:52 pm 
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This is not for Adventurer without addons IIRC, but Drem can be Stone Wardens. This means Elemental Shift and all related talents like Mergeback are extremely abusable. Some summoner talents (and stuff like Chronomancy clones I think) would also be easily abusable along with something like Detonate, especially since you have your own summon.

Oh, and Blinding Speed if you can handle the Stamina somehow.


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 Post subject: Re: Exploiting Drem
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 12:08 am 
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Confirmed this works for Assume Form, which is a solid quality of life upgrade for the Possessor.

Also, Frenzy should work extremely well with Projection Shenanigans - e.g. Projection, Frenzy, Psionic Minion, Psionic Minion, From Below It Devours.

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 Post subject: Re: Exploiting Drem
PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 6:39 pm 
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It works with Forgery of Haze, but I don't consider it an exploit.

If Forgery of Haze hooks into some generic mob AI and that AI gets more intelligent (e.g., stops casting rank 1 talents when it has so many rank 5 talents to choose from), then this combo might become a little overpowered. Probably still not to the point where it's exploitative.


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 Post subject: Re: Exploiting Drem
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 2:41 am 
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Double Aegis/Aegis ?

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