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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:55 pm 
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Funkymoses wrote:

you didn't answer the question about tinkers

if you have the option to go 2h and take tinkers, then you use sawrd since its basically guarenteed with new pride vaults

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:14 am 
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Funkymoses wrote:
Relying on Ice Wall is dangerous

in what universe is relying on an ability with range 10 dangerous lol

>but relying on the talent that is literally random is not dangerous
much sane, very logic

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a viable insane build for a class thought to have none

wow and he's modest too, here's your cool guy tryhard trophy

wyrmic isn't even particularly hard to win insane with ice wall does 90% of the work for you lol


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:34 am 
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ster wrote:
Funkymoses wrote:

you didn't answer the question about tinkers

if you have the option to go 2h and take tinkers, then you use sawrd since its basically guarenteed with new pride vaults


I wanted to make a build that was about the class and not an artifact liable to get nerfed into the ground any day now.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:54 am 
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voltteccer wrote:
Funkymoses wrote:
Relying on Ice Wall is dangerous

in what universe is relying on an ability with range 10 dangerous lol

>but relying on the talent that is literally random is not dangerous
much sane, very logic


I dunno man, it worked fine for me. Quake's only somewhat random. The knockback is guaranteed and with a lot of walls around the chances you get put in a bad spot are very, very low. As I mentioned, it's not something to fire off when you're at 1 HP but if you use it whenever you're not comfortable with how many mobs you've got in LOS it's going to do just fine for you. As I mentioned, this character cleared the Crypt without difficulty, largely because of Quake.

If you're *still* in trouble afterwards you can always go burrow --> lightning speed and run away. Since that worked so well for me I was not looking for additional LOS control and instead focused on damage.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:22 am 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:55 pm 
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Thanks for this guide! I'm really interested in trying out a Wyrmic character now. As someone who has never played the class before I've got a bit of a noobish question that relates to the strategy of playing one: you mentioned the possibility of getting some extra bump damage with nature mindstars. Are bump attacks something that a Wyrmic would generally employ? Or do you stick to ranged combat and simply use the various ranged talents at your disposal? And does this depend on whether you use mindstars or stick with a 2H build? Thanks in advance for any insight.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:45 pm 
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Funkymoses wrote:
This might have been suboptimal, especially if the Superpower 40% will addition gets multiplied by psiblades. (Does it?)


Nope. I just took Superpower on a character with Psi Blades. The numbers match what you'd get without psiblades multiplying the 40% from Superpower.

Such a shame. :)


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:33 am 
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RoaldHoffmann wrote:
Thanks for this guide! I'm really interested in trying out a Wyrmic character now. As someone who has never played the class before I've got a bit of a noobish question that relates to the strategy of playing one: you mentioned the possibility of getting some extra bump damage with nature mindstars. Are bump attacks something that a Wyrmic would generally employ? Or do you stick to ranged combat and simply use the various ranged talents at your disposal? And does this depend on whether you use mindstars or stick with a 2H build? Thanks in advance for any insight.


This build gets in a lot of melee combat because a number of its best skills are melee weapon skills, and it's really good at controlling the environment with quake and running away with lightning speed. But it's not really a melee build and not really a ranged build. It's a hybrid. At just about any range you will have some option to hit an opponent.

Breaths have long range and meh damage but a good pattern.
Wing Buffet and Static Field have medium range and a good pattern and eventually good damage
Quake and Ice Claw have short range and very good damage
Prismatic Slash, Dissolve, and Swallow are all melee range.

So at just about any range you'll have something to throw at an enemy.

Occasionally you'll end up in protracted fights with things that want to be in in close and bumping will be a better option than using EQ for a breath that has about the same damage as a bump. I found myself trying to close distance with most things because late-game mindstars do a ton of damage. Early game, keep everything away from you with buffet and then acid them to death. Midgame is tricky and should be based on what you're facing.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:09 pm 
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Thanks, Funkymoses! That definitely clears it up. I'm nearing the end of my current campaign so I'll have to give this build a go soon!


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 2:12 am 
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Hey all,

I want to do a mindstar/psiblades Wyrmic build for my next character.

This guide looks great and I'll mostly stick to it but I'll have some key differences:

1. Normal difficulty, adventure mode - I'm a n00b and this is only my second character. I currently have a Dwarf Bulwark Level 23 who is starting to bore me with his lack of ranged and AOE attacks. I've mainly been using him to learn the game and unlock stuff.

2. Thalore race - know ToME is power-gamer territory but I want it for lore/rpg reasons

3. Haven't bought Embers of Rage yet so no tinkers - I don't think I'll need them on normal anyway

I'm specifically interested in two things -

1. what I should do with the extra cat points since I won't be using tinkers?

2. How should I allocate my Thalore racials?

Also, any other suggestions you could give me based on my changes would be appreciated!


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:14 pm 
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80paddyb wrote:
Hey all,

I want to do a mindstar/psiblades Wyrmic build for my next character.

This guide looks great and I'll mostly stick to it but I'll have some key differences:

1. Normal difficulty, adventure mode - I'm a n00b and this is only my second character. I currently have a Dwarf Bulwark Level 23 who is starting to bore me with his lack of ranged and AOE attacks. I've mainly been using him to learn the game and unlock stuff.

2. Thalore race - know ToME is power-gamer territory but I want it for lore/rpg reasons

3. Haven't bought Embers of Rage yet so no tinkers - I don't think I'll need them on normal anyway

I'm specifically interested in two things -

1. what I should do with the extra cat points since I won't be using tinkers?

2. How should I allocate my Thalore racials?

Also, any other suggestions you could give me based on my changes would be appreciated!


For thalore, go 1/1/5/1

1/5/5/1 works too.

Get an extra inscription if you skip tinkers


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:48 am 
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How do you get Tinkers? I can't see it in my list

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:39 pm 
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jenx wrote:
How do you get Tinkers? I can't see it in my list

If you have Embers, and unlock the Tinker classes for AoA, you have the chance to get a tinker escort. One of the reward options is "Where did you learn your whatsit?", which marks a four-room dungeon on your map where you can spend a cat point and some gold to unlock the tinker crafting trees.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:16 am 
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Some random thoughts...
Tried this with 2h and conditioning. No fire tree and 1 breath (sand). 4 deaths. #1-suffocating to death in sandworm lair by dancing with rares) #2-bringer of doom at high peak 10, knocked to wall with 3k phys dmg. #3,4 - final fight AM shield taken off and most trash from portals start hitting hard.
IF you are going to use 2h then you need all accuracy you can find + perfect strikes from pickaxe or unlock Combat Techniques or get dex over cun. 68 accuracy after argoniel debuff ~50 vs her 75 defence.
Early game isnt that hard with ice walls and lightning speed.
Ice claw, swallow and dissolve rocks. Also swallow procs fungus regeneration. Static field start shining midgame. Corrosive mist written 7 turns feels like 4 or so. Breaths - no no. Icy skin got me over 2k hp endgame. Quake is random and dangerous.
Looking from now i would max stunning blow and execution.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:47 am 
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Cool thanks.

Using this guide I made it to level 25 fairly easily (1 death from having my escape stun-locked and one from just being sloppy against a group of skeleton magi) before burning 3 straight lives in the Dark Crypt (which I stupidly accepted without refreshing myself on the details of the shitstorm that was awaiting me in there).

https://te4.org/characters/217515/tome/ ... c76f1bd573

After that debacle I vaulted my tier 4 and 5 mindstars and am starting over as movement-focused Cornac (using the extra cat point to unlock Rush and Blinding Speed). It's still early but Rush and Swallow is such a fun combo against casters. We'll see later if it is any good for running down those bloody cultists.

Since this game now has me firmly in its spell I went ahead and got the DLC's too so if I get the escort I'll give tinkers a go on this build as well.

TarquinMitzi wrote:
80paddyb wrote:
Hey all,

I want to do a mindstar/psiblades Wyrmic build for my next character.

This guide looks great and I'll mostly stick to it but I'll have some key differences:

1. Normal difficulty, adventure mode - I'm a n00b and this is only my second character. I currently have a Dwarf Bulwark Level 23 who is starting to bore me with his lack of ranged and AOE attacks. I've mainly been using him to learn the game and unlock stuff.

2. Thalore race - know ToME is power-gamer territory but I want it for lore/rpg reasons

3. Haven't bought Embers of Rage yet so no tinkers - I don't think I'll need them on normal anyway

I'm specifically interested in two things -

1. what I should do with the extra cat points since I won't be using tinkers?

2. How should I allocate my Thalore racials?

Also, any other suggestions you could give me based on my changes would be appreciated!


For thalore, go 1/1/5/1

1/5/5/1 works too.

Get an extra inscription if you skip tinkers


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