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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:21 pm 
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I recently tried it, and failed in Old Forest - enemiy build on gunslinger destroed his ass - coudnt run because he found me faster then cd for Phase Door and Teleport, can't damage because he two-shot me.
So, what the - I'm supposed to do as Necro in this situation?
Also it was minion-less build.

PS I was so close to Lichdom... :twisted:

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:01 pm 
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Corner snipe, i guess?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:11 pm 
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Clarify!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:53 pm 
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It's when you stay behind tile, that block LoS to enemy, but can aim AoE spell to adjanced tile where enemy are, therefore if enemy was within the AoE radius it got hit, even if it's not the center of impact.

Particularly necromancer have Chill of the tomb and Cold flames for that sort of things.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:44 pm 
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He was so fast he found me after 4-5 turns after teleport.
Such tricks doesn't help.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:26 pm 
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Is it any case that enemy was one with 200% base speed? Those bees are, well, pretty insane.

Did you try track+movement infusion+zig-zag digging?

There are possibility to get rid of EoR stuff by disabling it in addon menu, but if you planning to use tinkers, obviously it's not an option.

Besides that, t2 zones on insane+ are considered as high difficulty spike.

Also, take a look on this thread viewtopic.php?f=49&t=43003 maybe there are answers about necromancer that are you looking for.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:43 pm 
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Maybe it's you that sucks on Insane?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:04 pm 
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GlassGo wrote:
PS I was so close to Lichdom... :twisted:

Found the problem, it's user error as usual.

PS -- The bee's damage output has no effect on your ability to hurt it because Necromancer's two best sources of damage in the first half of the game are a DoT spell (so you can just stick it on him and then teleport away) and an AoE spell (so you can corner-snipe from out of LOS)

PPS -- If you were "close" to lichdom, then you had access to Sacrifice, which would make it impossible for something to "2-shot" you.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:12 pm 
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St_ranger_er wrote:
Is it any case that enemy was one with 200% base speed? Those bees are, well, pretty insane.

It was bear with 2K hp.
judging by the sensations it cover 2-3 3-4 tiles for one mine.

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Did you try track+movement infusion+zig-zag digging?

No, I met him early and start to teleport away in a bunch of other mobs, this escalated quickly, was killed when Oozemancer-based rare or unique interfered.
I just had no time for zig-zag because he was too fast, and it doesnhelp because he two-shot me. Aslo had Movement Infusion, Phase Door and Teleportation.

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There are possibility to get rid of EoR stuff by disabling it in addon menu, but if you planning to use tinkers, obviously it's not an option.

Yeah, disabling and avoiding things like Dark Crypt isn't my cup of tea.

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Besides that, t2 zones on insane+ are considered as high difficulty spike.

I saw somebody called them as most dangerous part of the game.

Mex wrote:
Maybe it's you that sucks on Insane?

Maybe.
But maybe not.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 1:26 am 
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Isn't the point of Insane that everything sucks?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:59 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:42 pm 
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I'm suck and I'm OK with it.

So, what race for Necro with Tinkering?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:41 pm 
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I did one more try on Insane, and I doubt that Necro can did DC on Insane - he just don't have enough dps, at least with my build.
InvD, RM, and ImpD, even with FoH it is too little, not enough.
2-3 rares with one psionic-type boss finished my char, even thou I did zigzag digging.
Sad.

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