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PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:14 pm 
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One of the hazards of not doing escort quests anymore is that I don't notice when they change. For instance, as reported on Steam, lost anorithils betrayed to Zigur have apparently been offering Psionic/Feedback instead of Technique/Field Control since 1.5.0. :oops: v10b.3, just pushed out, finally updates the planner dialog to reflect this. If your planner dialog doesn't know you know about this quest reward, you can tell it using the "Mark as Seen" button with the activation code "escort_lost_anorithil_psionic_feedback". We Apologize for the Inconvenience.™

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:52 am 
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A Steam user has requested that the planner be able to handle gaining the Celestial/Star Fury tree by becoming a lich. Now, I've never played a Necromancer (the souls mechanic, from what I read about it, sounds too annoying to bother with), so I wanted to double-check here that I've understood correctly how this works:

  • AIUI, the player gains the Lichform talent by completing the From Death, Life quest, and the Lichform talent's description fully describes the effects of becoming a lich, so the completion of that quest is the point at which the planner can assume the player "knows" about gaining the talent tree this way. I'll probably have to add a mark-as-seen code for this…
  • The precise effects of becoming a lich apparently vary depending on how many talent points you spend in the Lichform talent. I'll probably end up having to add multiple radio-button-ish choices for the various talent levels. (And AFAICT you can't spend more points in Lichform once you've become a lich, so the planner will be able to tell which one you've gained by checking for lich state and Lichform talent level.)
  • Obviously the planner shouldn't show this option for characters that can't become liches. I gather that undead characters can't, and I assume only Necromancers can; any other restrictions?

Thanks in advance. :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:47 am 
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Okay, I think I've got everything sorted out, so that's going out as v10c. Points of interest:
  • It appears I was wrong: the Lichform talent is apparently visible right off the bat, you just can't spend any talent points in it until you've completed the From Death, Life quest. :oops: Which means there's nothing spoilery to hide, so the planner will show this source to any character that can use it (modulo the following).
  • I decided to condition showing this source on knowing the Blurred Mortality talent, which Necromancers start with; that way, your lich-aspiring Adventurer can also use this planner option, at the cost of having to put a point into Blurred Mortality before you build your plan. We Apologize for the Inconvenience.™
  • This source, of course, requires extra configuration information, specifically how many talent points to spend in Lichform and whether to spend a cat point boosting Spell/Necrosis. The planner will prompt for this information the first time you select the source:
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    You can also bring up this dialog later by right-clicking on the lichform entry in the planner dialog. [And the underlying infrastructure supporting this should be sufficiently general-purpose to be used by any future talent sources that need this sort of configuration. I hope.]

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:59 am 
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Aaand setting a new record for time between releasing a new addon version and finding a bug in it (1 hour 12 minutes, for reference), v10c.1 goes to the effort of actually saving the newly collected configuration information into the point plan. We Apologize for the Error.™ :oops: :oops: :oops:

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:24 am 
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v10c.2 fixes a bug reported via Steam, which screws up mouse wheel handling in the planner dialog. Also, further Steam discussion suggests that having a point in Blurred Mortality is not a good choice for making the Lichform/Star Fury talent source visible; for now, we're switching to conditioning on knowing the Spell/Necrosis tree.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:14 am 
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Well, the aforementioned Lichform mods seem to have been successfully bashed into something approximating working shape, but just to mock me, they've tickled another long-standing bug with the "Load Plan From Previous Char" button. See, the Lichform mods changed the shape of the information the point plan keeps, which is tracked internally as the plan's "wire version". Now, if your old character's plan is of an older wire version (as any old plan prior to the Lichform mods would be), the "Load Plan From Previous Char" button is supposed to convert the old plan to the latest wire version and then open a level-up dialog on the converted plan; instead, it was converting the old plan and then… not opening a level-up dialog. :? Stupid omission, fixed in v10c.3, just pushed out. We Apologize for the Inconvenience.™

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:09 am 
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One of the things Forbidden Cults adds is yet another place where you need to plan out your use of talent points: Writhing Ones' worm that walks. It's mostly like the alchemist golem (doesn't seem to get any boost from Blighted Summoning, though), so it didn't take much changes to make the planner work for it. That's going out as v10d.

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