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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:18 am 
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I do 5000 elemental damage to Orc Mage Hunters and they don't die when the typical level 50 normal enemy has about 1k HP, and I can't do another 5000 elemental damage to them because they've mana clashed all my mana away. They can't actually kill me, though, even if they manage to slowly poke my Golem to death, but reasonably speaking they really shouldn't even be able to burn my mana considering my Mental Save is 2 tiers above the Mental Attack of a typical example.

Resolve working with Rank 5 AMS up is completely imbalanced. Anti-Magic scaling off Physical Power is completely imbalanced. I don't know if I care about getting a mod to fix this because I'd have to start a new character to use it.

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Sex              : Male         STR:  48
Race             : Dwarf        DEX:  16
Class            : Alchemist    MAG:  82
Level            : 48           WIL:  36
Exp              : 8%           CUN:  59
Gold             : 5426.72      CON:  74
Times died       : 2
Lifes left       : 5

Accuracy(Main Hand):   8        Life             :     1578/1578Encumbrance      : 60/126
Damage  (Main Hand):  45                                        Difficulty       : Normal
Permadeath       : Adventure
APR     (Main Hand):  10        Mana             :     134/314
Crit    (Main Hand):  43%       Positive         :     169/171
Speed   (Main Hand): 1.00       
                               
                               
                               

Fatigue          : 44%          Spellpower       : 53
Armor            : 128.32068341724Spell Crit       : 36.2%
Armor Hardiness  : 100%         Spell Speed      : 1
Defense          : 18           
Ranged Defense   : 24           
All damage       : 0%

Physical Save    : 62
Spell Save       : 61
Mental Save      : 66

All Resists:  15%
Confusion Resistance:  10%
Blind Resistance:  40%
Stun Resistance:   0%
Knockback Resistance:   0%
Instadeath Resistance: 100%

Number of NPC killed: 5577
Most killed NPC: fire drake hatchling (247)

  [Talents Chart]

 - Race / Dwarf                       (mastery 1.00)
    Resilience of the Dwarves (generic) 2/5
    Stoneskin (generic)               1/5
    Power is Money (generic)          5/5
    Stone Walking (generic)           1/5
 - Technique / Combat training        (mastery 1.00)
    Thick Skin (generic)              5/5
    Heavy Armour Training (generic)   5/5
    Light Armour Training (generic)   0/5
    Combat Accuracy (generic)         0/5
    Weapons Mastery (generic)         0/5
    Dagger Mastery (generic)          0/5
 - Spell / Explosive admixtures       (mastery 1.30)
    Throw Bomb (class)                5/5
    Alchemist Protection (class)      5/5
    Explosion Expert (class)          5/5
    Shockwave Bomb (class)            0/5
 - Spell / Golemancy                  (mastery 1.30)
    Golem Power (class)               5/5
    Golem Resilience (class)          5/5
    Invoke Golem (class)              1/5
    Golem Portal (class)              1/5
 - Spell / Advanced-golemancy         (mastery 1.30)
    Life Tap (class)                  1/5
    Gem Golem (class)                 5/5
    Supercharge Golem (class)         2/5
    Runic Golem (class)               5/5
 - Spell / Fire alchemy               (mastery 1.30)
    Flame Infusion (class)            5/5
    Smoke Bomb (class)                1/5
    Fire Storm (class)                5/5
    Body of Fire (class)              5/5
 - Spell / Acid alchemy               (mastery 1.30)
    Acid Infusion (class)             0/5
    Caustic Golem (class)             0/5
    Caustic Mire (class)              0/5
    Dissolving Acid (class)           0/5
 - Spell / Frost alchemy              (mastery 1.30)
    Frost Infusion (class)            1/5
    Ice Armour (class)                1/5
    Flash Freeze (class)              5/5
    Ice Core (class)                  0/5
 - Spell / Stone alchemy              (mastery 1.30)
    Extract Gems (generic)            5/5
    Imbue Item (generic)              0/5
    Gem Portal (generic)              0/5
    Stone Touch (generic)             0/5
 - Spell / Staff combat               (mastery 1.30)
    Channel Staff (generic)           1/5
    Staff Mastery (generic)           1/5
    Defensive Posture (generic)       1/5
    Blunt Thrust (generic)            0/5
 - Celestial / Chants                 (mastery 0.80)
    Chant Acolyte (generic)           5/5
    Chant Illuminate (generic)        2/5
    Chant Adept (generic)             4/5
    Chant Radiant (generic)           1/5
 - Celestial / Light                  (mastery 0.80)
    Healing Light (generic)           2/5
    Bathe in Light (generic)          1/5
    Barrier (generic)                 2/5
    Providence (generic)              2/5
 - Uber / Strength                    (mastery 1.00)
    Flexible Combat (class)           0/1
    You Shall Be My Weapon! (class)   0/1
    Massive Blow (class)              0/1
    Steamroller (class)               0/1
    Irresistible Sun (class)          0/1
    I Can Carry The World! (class)    0/1
    Legacy of the Naloren (class)     0/1
    Superpower (class)                0/1
 - Uber / Dexterity                   (mastery 1.00)
    Through The Crowd (class)         0/1
    Swift Hands (class)               0/1
    Windblade (class)                 0/1
    Windtouched Speed (class)         0/1
    Giant Leap (class)                0/1
    Crafty Hands (class)              0/1
    Roll With It (class)              0/1
    Vital Shot (class)                0/1
 - Uber / Constitution                (mastery 1.00)
    Draconic Body (class)             1/1
    Bloodspring (class)               0/1
    Eternal Guard (class)             0/1
    Never Stop Running (class)        0/1
    Armour of Shadows (class)         0/1
    Spine of the World (class)        0/1
    Fungal Blood (class)              0/1
    Corrupted Shell (class)           0/1
 - Uber / Magic                       (mastery 1.00)
    Spectral Shield (class)           0/1
    Aether Permeation (class)         0/1
    Mystical Cunning (class)          0/1
    Arcane Might (class)              0/1
    Temporal Form (class)             0/1
    Blighted Summoning (class)        0/1
    Revisionist History (class)       0/1
    Cauterize (class)                 1/1
 - Uber / Willpower                   (mastery 1.00)
    Draconic Will (class)             0/1
    Meteoric Crash (class)            0/1
    Garkul's Revenge (class)          0/1
    Hidden Resources (class)          0/1
    Lucky Day (class)                 0/1
    Unbreakable Will (class)          0/1
    Spell Feedback (class)            0/1
    Mental Tyranny (class)            0/1
 - Uber / Cunning                     (mastery 1.00)
    Fast As Lightning (class)         0/1
    Tricky Defenses (class)           0/1
    Endless Woes (class)              0/1
    Secrets of Telos (class)          0/1
    Elemental Surge (class)           0/1
    Eye of the Tiger (class)          0/1
    Worldly Knowledge (class)         0/1
    Tricks of the Trade (class)       0/1

  [Inscriptions (4/4)]

Infusion: Wild
Rune: Teleportation
Rune: Phase Door
Rune: Shielding

  [Current Effects]

- Flame Infusion
- Body of Fire
- Chant of Fortitude
- Dwarven Resilience

  [Character Equipment]

 In main hand
a) Everpyre Blade (38-53.2 power, 10 apr)
   [Unique]
Type: weapon / longsword ; tier 4

Base power: 38.0 - 53.2
Uses stat: 100% Str
Damage type: Physical
Accuracy bonus: +0.4% crit.pwr / acc
Armour Penetration: +10
Crit. chance: +18.0%
Attack speed: 100%
Damage conversion: 50% fire
When wielded/worn:
Changes stats: +7 Str / +7 Wil
Changes resistances: +10% nature / +15% fire
Changes resistances penetration: +15% fire
Changes damage: +20% fire
It can be used to activate talent Fire Breath (costing 25 power out of 25/25) :
Effective talent level: 2.0
Power cost: 25 out of 25/25.
Range: melee/personal
Travel Speed: instantaneous
Is: a nature gift and a mind power
Description: You breathe fire in a frontal cone of radius 6. Any target caught in the area will take 307.70 fire damage over 3 turns, and has a 25% chance of being Flameshocked for 3 turns, stunning them.
The damage will increase with your Strength, and the critical chance is based on your Mental crit rate.
Each point in fire drake talents also increases your fire resistance by 1%.
 In off hand
b) Piercing Gaze (5 def, 25 armour, 180 block)
   [Unique]
Type: armor / shield ; tier 4

When wielded/worn:
Armour: +25
Defense: +5 (+3 eff.)
Ranged Defense: +10 (+5 eff.)
Fatigue: +12%
Changes resistances: +10% acid / +10% physical / +10% fire / +10% lightning
Talent granted: +4 Block
Special effect on block: 30% chance of petrifying the attacker.

   Dropped by Greater Mummy Lord
 On fingers
c) Bloodcaller
   [Unique]
Type: jewelry / ring ; tier 4

When wielded/worn:
Fatigue: -5%
Mental save: -7 (-2 eff.)
Life leech chance: +15%
Life leech: +30%

d) savior's stralite ring of warding
   Type: jewelry / ring ; tier 4

When wielded/worn:
Changes resistances: +16% acid / +18% fire / +18% cold / +22% lightning
Physical save: +11 (+2 eff.)
Spell save: +10 (+2 eff.)
Mental save: +13 (+3 eff.)

 Around neck
e) Fiery Choker
   [Unique]
Type: jewelry / amulet ; tier 3

When wielded/worn:
Changes stats: +5 Mag / +4 Wil / +3 Cun
Changes resistances: -20% cold / +20% fire
Changes damage: -5% cold / +10% fire
Damage affinity(heal): +30% fire
Blindness immunity: +40%
Spellpower: +7 (+3 eff.)
Spell crit. chance: +8%
Talent on hit(spell): Volcano (10% chance level 3).

   Dropped by Ukllmswwik the Wise
 Light source
f) Eldritch Pearl
   [Unique]
Type: lite / lite

When wielded/worn:
Physical power: +12 (+4 eff.)
Changes stats: +4 Str / +4 Dex / +4 Mag / +4 Wil / +4 Cun / +4 Con / -5 Lck
Allows you to breathe in: water
Spellpower: +12 (+4 eff.)
Light radius: +6
It can be used to activate talent Tidal Wave (costing 80 power out of 150/150) :
Effective talent level: 4.0
Power cost: 80 out of 150/150.
Range: melee/personal
Travel Speed: instantaneous
Is: a spell
Description: A wall of water rushes out from the caster with an initial radius of 1, increasing by 1 per turn to a maximum radius of 4, doing 24.89 cold damage and 28.55 physical damage to all inside, as well as knocking back targets each turn.
The tidal wave lasts for 6 turns.
All creatures hit gain the wet effect, which reduces their stun/freeze immunity by half and interacts with other cold spells.
The damage and duration will increase with your Spellpower.
   Dropped by Slasul
 Main armor
g) Searraven (7 def, 28 armour)
   [Random Unique]
Type: armor / massive ; tier 4

When wielded/worn:
Armour: +28
Defense: +7 (+4 eff.)
Fatigue: +26%
Changes stats: +1 Str
Changes resistances: +18% cold
Changes damage: +6% fire / +9% physical
Life regen: +0.40
Maximum life: +37.00
Maximum stamina: +15.00

 Cloak
h) thick elven-silk cloak of the voidstalker (3 def, 9 armour)
   Type: armor / cloak ; tier 5

When wielded/worn:
Armour: +9
Defense: +3 (+2 eff.)
Changes resistances: +19% temporal / +18% darkness / +20% cold
Defense after a teleport: +27
Resist all after a teleport: +13%
New effects duration reduction after a teleport: +17%
It can be used to blink randomly (up to range 8) within 2 spaces of a target hostile creature, putting all charms on cooldown for 10 turns.
 On head
i) drakeskin leather cap 'Kindlebreacher' (0 def, 10 armour)
   Type: armor / head ; tier 5

When wielded/worn:
Armour: +10
Fatigue: +5%
Damage when hit (Melee): 12 acid / 16 fire
Changes resistances: +15% acid / +9% fire
Changes resistances penetration: +25% fire
Changes damage: +9% acid
Infravision radius: +3

   Dropped by Ivosewyn the gigantic sandworm tunneler
 Around waist
j) spiritwalker's hardened leather belt of valiance
   Type: armor / belt ; tier 3

When wielded/worn:
Changes stats: +3 Wil / +3 Mag
Mental save: +8 (+2 eff.)
Mana each turn: +0.19
Maximum life: +66.00
Maximum mana: +35.00

 On hands
k) stone warden's voratun gauntlets of war-making (0 def, 16 armour)
   Type: armor / hands ; tier 5

When wielded/worn:
Physical crit. chance: +12.0%
Armour: +16
Armour Hardiness: +9%
Changes stats: +7 Con
Changes resistances: +10% physical
Critical mult.: +12.00%
Spell crit. chance: +14%
Mental crit. chance: +12%

 On feet
l) Cinderfeet (3 def, 5 armour)
   [Unique]
Type: armor / feet ; tier 4

When wielded/worn:
Armour: +5
Defense: +3 (+2 eff.)
Fatigue: +6%
Changes stats: +4 Cun / +4 Mag
Changes resistances: +20% cold
Changes damage: +18% fire
Light radius: +2
Each step you take leaves a burning trail behind you lasting 5 turns that deals 102 fire damage (based on Spellpower) to foes who enter it.

   Dropped by Rak'Shor Cultist
 Tool
m) dwarven-steel pickaxe of quickening (dig speed 25 turns)
   Type: tool / digger ; tier 3

When wielded/worn:
Changes stats: +2 Str
Lowers spell cool-downs by: 10%
When carried:
Talent granted: +1 Dig

   Dropped by Shasshhiy'Kaish
 Quiver
n) 35 alchemist diamond
   Type: alchemist-gem / white ; tier 5

When used as an alchemist bomb:
Bomb damage +25%


  [Player Achievements]

'A dangerous secret' was achieved for Found the mysterious staff and told Last Hope about it. At 2018-03-13 21:49:51
'A different point of view' was achieved for Learned the five chapters of Orc history through loremaster Hadak's tales. At 2018-03-14 16:09:04
'Against all odds' was achieved for Killed Ukruk in the ambush. At 2018-03-13 21:29:09
'Arachnophobia' was achieved for Destroyed the spydric menace. At 2018-03-14 01:55:00
'Are you out of your mind?!' was achieved for Caught the attention of overpowered greater multi-hued wyrms in Vor Armoury. Perhaps fleeing is in order. At 2018-03-14 10:58:29
'Back and there again' was achieved for Opened a portal to the Far East from Maj'Eyal. At 2018-03-14 13:18:20
'Brave new world' was achieved for Went to the Far East and took part in the war. At 2018-03-14 00:56:12
'Bringer of Doom' was achieved for Killed a Bringer of Doom. At 2018-03-12 23:02:32
'Clone War' was achieved for Destroyed your own Shade. At 2018-03-14 13:35:47
'Curse Lifter' was achieved for Killed Ben Cruthdar the Cursed. At 2018-03-11 20:35:55
'Destroyer of the creation' was achieved for Killed Slasul. At 2018-03-14 02:36:30
'Destroyer's bane' was achieved for Killed Golbug the Destroyer. At 2018-03-14 00:36:00
'Dragon's Greed' was achieved for Amassed 8000 gold pieces. At 2018-03-14 02:16:24
'Exterminator' was achieved for Killed 1000 creatures. At 2018-03-12 21:30:09
'Eye of the storm' was achieved for Freed Derth from the onslaught of the mad Tempest, Urkis. At 2018-03-13 14:29:14
'Flooder' was achieved for Defeated Ukllmswwik while doing his own quest. At 2018-03-14 02:13:49
'Home sweet home' was achieved for Dispatched the Weirdling Beast and took possession of Yiilkgur, the Sher'Tul Fortress for your own usage. At 2018-03-13 13:47:01
'I cleared the room of death and all I got was this lousy achievement!' was achieved for Killed the seven overpowered wyrms in the "Room of Death" in Vor Armoury. At 2018-03-14 11:21:16
'Level 10' was achieved for Got a character to level 10. At 2018-03-11 21:03:23
'Level 20' was achieved for Got a character to level 20. At 2018-03-12 22:47:38
'Level 30' was achieved for Got a character to level 30. At 2018-03-13 21:29:09
'Level 40' was achieved for Got a character to level 40. At 2018-03-14 12:31:18
'Race through fire' was achieved for Raced through the fires of the Charred Scar to stop the Sorcerers. At 2018-03-14 21:20:15
'Rescuer of the lost' was achieved for Rescued the merchant from the assassin lord. At 2018-03-13 19:33:38
'Shasshhiy'Kaish' was achieved for Killed Shasshhiy'Kaish after letting her grow as powerful as possible. At 2018-03-12 22:47:38
'Size is everything' was achieved for Did over 1500 damage in one attack. At 2018-03-14 16:40:01
'Size matters' was achieved for Did over 600 damage in one attack. At 2018-03-12 20:06:35
'Sliders' was achieved for Activated a portal using the Orb of Many Ways. At 2018-03-14 00:40:38
'Squadmate' was achieved for Escaped from Reknor alive with your squadmate Norgan. At 2018-03-11 20:23:41
'The Arena' was achieved for Unlocked Arena mode. At 2018-03-11 21:12:57
'The Old Ones' was achieved for Kill all the three demons that are on Eyal since before the Spellblaze: Shasshhiy'Kaish, Kryl'Feijan and Walrog. At 2018-03-14 02:11:56
'The secret city' was achieved for Discovered the truth about mages. At 2018-03-11 21:23:13
'There and back again' was achieved for Opened a portal to Maj'Eyal from the Far East. At 2018-03-14 11:52:25
'Treasure Hoarder' was achieved for Amassed 3000 gold pieces. At 2018-03-13 14:33:38
'Treasure Hunter' was achieved for Amassed 1000 gold pieces. At 2018-03-12 22:38:15
'Vampire crusher' was achieved for Destroyed the Master in its lair of the Dreadfell. At 2018-03-13 21:20:53


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:44 pm 
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Well, you could deactivate your infusion to deal phys damage and not get manaburned nearly as much.
And also so the mage-hunter wouldn't get resistance.

Mage-hunter are stupidly annoying against some mages true, but they're still killable, like everything else.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:53 am 
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That wouldn't help *too* much, I think. I'd lose a lot of damage because I wouldn't have my fire damage and fire resist reduction mods. I also don't have any other source of physical damage to follow it up with, so I'd need to lure the Mage-Hunters into corners, hope for a crit, and avoid getting Mana Clashed in order to even have a chance of one-shotting them, and if I don't one-shot them then I'll get Mana Clashed and wind up in the same situation again.

The thing that really stops me from being able to just overwhelm them with damage is Mana Clash. Whenever I get hit with it I just lose all my mana and I don't have any strong mana recovery mechanics that will let me recover from it, so my strategy was to dump as much mana as I could as fast as I could into my hardest-hitting spells and just smash through the AMS. Turns out I can put out a *lot* of damage when I do that, but since AMS is free to sustain these days that just doesn't seem to matter.

Now that I understand just how much of a pain Mage Hunters are, I think the solution I'd have to go with is to spec my golem differently. Instead of actually investing into the magic half of the golem tree, just float points in Eye Beams until I'm level 20-something and then dump everything into the combat tree.

EDIT: Looking at what I could do differently, I noticed that Dissolving Acid removes positive Physical and Mental effects and Mental Sustains. Does that include AMS? Vitality? If I can remove even one of those, I think that will shut down the defenses of the Mage Hunters long enough to kill them, although that's unfortunately not possible on this character.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:35 am 
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Yes, dissolving acid remove AMS.

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