ToME: the Tales of Maj'Eyal

Everything about ToME
It is currently Tue Sep 26, 2017 7:12 am

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 87 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Playing again
PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:33 pm 
Offline
Thalore

Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:55 pm
Posts: 199
I'm confused. Why in the world would you want Chronomancy?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Playing again
PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:11 pm 
Offline
Wyrmic

Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:46 pm
Posts: 239
Foresight gives extra defense, and you can contingency time shield I guess.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Playing again
PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:32 pm 
Offline
Halfling

Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:38 pm
Posts: 82
If you are playing Roguelike you want something to 'save' you from accidents. That is unless you are very good at not making accidents.

I am not very good at not making accidents (so I like contingency and heroism and so on).

But shadowviel means you aren't in control of your character, and the reason people don't like it is because when you aren't controlling your character there can be accidents (if you are the type that doesn't have accidents).

So you get contingency.

Foresight is just a 'bonus'.

JM


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Playing again
PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:33 pm 
Offline
Halfling

Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:38 pm
Posts: 82
With a PM I did TimeStop. I don't have TimeStop here, is TimeSheild obviously better than controlled phase shift?

JM
(I would not have my rogue like normal PM win without contingency)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Playing again
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:32 am 
Offline
Halfling

Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:38 pm
Posts: 82
Well, I have a Skeleton.

Done with 3/4 of the T2 dungeons but not the Fortress yet.

I have nice equipment, and Light is waiting for the lvl36 point (I got Temporal at 10 and will get Ambush at 20).

I am having a hard time getting enough mana to run Essence and still have mana left for Time Shield/etc. Should I start upping Will? I have found some very nice Str and Cun and Mag items... and the Eye.

Generics is really difficult, it looks like
Combat Training 5/0/5/0/0/5
Skeleton 4/5/5/5
Conveyance 5/1/0/0
Mobility 1/1/1/2
Light 1/1/1/5
Chronomancy 1/1/1/0

That is 56... and I might want to adjust some of the points to better use light. Hopefully I get some nice escorts (6 to go, so far have Light/Vitality/Arcane Eye (should have got Vision?)).

I am currently thinking about prodigies.

Not sure what to take: Tricks of the Trade? Worldly Knowledge? Eye of the Tiger? Swift Hands? Endless Woes? Unbreakable Will? Armor of Shadows?

What is different this time? A bit of luck, a bit of focusing on other things than Skeleton Generics, a bit of prep (I go in the shadows and put on time shield/rune of reflection before attacking usually).

JM


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Playing again
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 3:11 pm 
Offline
Halfling

Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:38 pm
Posts: 82
I forgot to link my character.
https://te4.org/characters/66232/tome/7 ... 2e828bb058


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Playing again
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:56 pm 
Offline
Halfling

Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:38 pm
Posts: 82
The bunny dungeon was pretty intense. Not to kill the boss, but to kill all the uniques/etc afterwards.

I really like being able to run away, stealth and run further... rest up and return.

I am about ready to start running shadowviel. Basically I want to have a little more mana first. Is it worth putting another 2-4 points into Will to get the mana? Or should I find some item that boosts Mana further? I am already running a light source that isn't ideal except it adds to my will.

I have finished all T2 dungeons. I need to get blood caller, which I intend to run with my ran dart (although I also have other good rings).

JM


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Playing again
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 7:04 pm 
Offline
Halfling

Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:38 pm
Posts: 82
So I think I have reached the point where Cornac would be stronger than Skeleton and am quickly reaching the point where Shalor would be stronger.

I actually almost died to an AM patrol (got to -36 health). Using Shadowviel saved me, the huge amount of darkness damage got through the enemies resists/shields, while I hadn't really made a dent (and got heavily injured) using flurry. I had originally thought I would use flurry primarily against strong opponents but shadowviel is in many ways better.

It can lead to accidents though. And it is hard to remember to run time shield and reflection rune before every shadowviel (sometimes I run just the rune, and have lost health a couple of times).

I can see that providence and contingency will be useful... I hope I can last the 4-10 levels until I get them.

The escaping, stealthing, healing and returning is really nice (despite the complaints I hear about stealth).

JM


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Playing again
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 7:07 pm 
Offline
Halfling

Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:38 pm
Posts: 82
https://te4.org/characters/66232/tome/7 ... 2e828bb058

Lorurand? Brodydurak? Spellblaze Shard? Crystalline Dwarves-Steel dagger?

What should I be using? It can be hard to tell.

JM


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Playing again
PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 3:13 am 
Offline
Halfling

Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:38 pm
Posts: 82
Decided to do the giant vault before facing the master. Tried Shadowviel... without contingency. Died to 1000 boulders...
.
JM


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Playing again
PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 9:25 am 
Offline
Wayist

Joined: Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:46 pm
Posts: 15
Mb its not best idea to use shadowveil on roguelike? Was using it after last category and with regen/heroism/shield prebuff. Its actually very fun skill once u can afford to safely use it. Heard that cauterize is good prodigy for roguelike.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Playing again
PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:01 pm 
Offline
Halfling

Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:38 pm
Posts: 82
I think at Nightmare is still ok... I think the problem I had was that you have to be careful about vaults and bet careful about what is in them... I wasn't.

I also don't think that skeleton is the best for >20 shadowviel shadow blade... I should be doing cornac or shalor next or maybe do something else for a bit.

JM


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 87 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group