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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:32 pm 
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Okay. None of the others actually give Telepathy, besides the lake one, so it was confusing.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:22 am 
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NOTE: Since the update, accuracy is not guaranteed. Please tell me if you see anything incorrect!

Note: This is more spoilery than anything else here. This is a fairly full list of secret effects and unlocks. If you want to find these yourself, or just want small hints, don't read this.


Known Unlocks, Prodigies, and other Special Effects:
Progidies:
- (Hydra Progidy) 50 Cunning and 1 Prodigy Point and finding a very rare dialog option in the Clasp menu: Hat Trick - Allows the Hydra to clasp Necklaces and Headgear.
- (Drakeling Prodigy) Inspecting or Picking up a Crown item (excluding crown of burning pain) while having 3 Drakelings (at least one with its "Ultimate" trait), or dying with a prodigy point and a drakeling with an Ultimate Trait: Legacy - Crowns can be clasped normally, and when you die, you become one of your drakelings who has an ultimate trait. You can make them an adult with a lot more power by wearing a crown and talking to the summoner.
- (Ritch Prodigy) 50 Cunning and 1 Prodigy Point and using the Killing Blade effect on a Bow (Plus special step listed at end of the Prodigies list): Death from Above - Allows you to craft bow Impermanence Weapons (Requires one metal item, one belt, one piece of jewelry, and a bow) using Death from Above and unlocks shoot talent.
- (War Hound Prodigy): Getting 20 skill points into howls and using a howl (effect triggers randomly after 20 total howls): Megahowl - Gives you the skill Megahowl, which does this: The soundwave is a (1600)% speed, piercing projectile that loses (100)% speed each time it moves or collides into something (dissipating when the speed becomes less than 100%).Targets struck will receive (damage), become dazed, and get knocked back 1 tile in the same direction the projectile is travelling, such that they will be dragged with the projectile until it expires or they bump into something solid. The damage scales with your physical and mind power.
- (Minotaur Prodigy): Inflict curses (1/5 chance) while you have a prodigy point - Ancient Curse: Gives a skill that does the following: "Damage that one target receives is felt by the other for 10 turns... However, as it is only pain, the target's life can only be reduced to no less than 1."
----- Special Step for Ritch Prodigy: First attempt- Choices as such: Bowstring (Bow), (I don't know perfectly for this step. I used Improvise and a helmet), Jewelry, and a belt.
Unlocks:
- Winning the Game as an Avatar: Therian- Class for non-summons AND summons that has hydra, drakeling, and mantis skills.
- Corrupting the Sandworm Queen's Heart and using it: Unlock the "Visual:Blighted" option for all Avatars (under Customize tab) and unlock the Blighted Start for the Avatar class you were playing as. AND causes the current character to hit blight threshold (If they are blighted already, they get a bonus to blight skills (I don't remember by how much)).
- Consuming the Oozing Heart: Unlock the "Visual: Evolved" (Antimagic) in the customize tab for all avatars and gives the Decontaminate skill.
- Start an Avatar Game: rexorcorum graphics under Customize tab.
- Becoming coronated as Enghryza Drakeling (Should be fixed): Unlock the "Become Enghryza, The Broodmother" option for Fire Drake. Enghryza doesn't get all of the class trees, losing Heatstroke and Lumbering Beast entirely , and starts with 1.5x in Dragon Brood and Dragon Scales, and 1.3x in Dragon Army and Dissension (They are still locked though), and 1.3x in Snarling Beast (Unlocked). All other trees start at 1.0x, excepting Fire Drake Aspect, which starts as .8x, as usual. Also starts as gargantuan, but without lumbering beast, that isn't a big deal. Odd note: Drakelings will refer to you as mother, but, the char. sheet will still refer to you as male if you chose male. I suppose there isn't much to do about that?
- Getting the three hydra mutations on one character (Crystal Focus, Serpent's Glare, Eye of the wyrm): Customizable Heads option for Hydra. Starts you with all head options, but you can only have three (possibly (untested) excluding decoy). Don't know what it does to reflections.
- Crafting weapon with the Bladed Rift (Ak'Gishil's drop): Unlock permanent blade for Ritch. Start with the unbreakable Bladed Rift weapon (a breakable version is also gotten by crafting it), but you cannot make other weapons.
- War Hound Unlock: Hunting Pack - Grants ALL the summoning items at the start of the game and DRASTICALLY changes your talent trees. Particularly, it allows you to learn "Dreaming Beast" and "Flickering Beast" talents (which is normally impossible for War Hounds). Finally, it gives you "Call Hunting Pack", which allows you to summon ALL your pack members at once on an increasing cooldown (much like "summoning destabilization"). Finish both reflections, no others conditions, future effect of many pack members to trigger.
- Minotaur Unlock: All-Natural. No weapons for you, but some unlocked categories. Finish both reflections.
Consume And Other effects:
- Corrupted Heart of The Sandworm Queen (All)(also an unlock): Causes the current character to hit blight threshold (If they are blighted already, they get a bonus to blight skills (I don't remember by how much)).
- Chromatic Harness (Fire Drake): Grants a special Drakeling. I think it would be an Urukles set, but I am not 100% sure.
- Rune of Reflection: Gives a passive amount of damage reflection (I don't know how much).
- Consuming Heart of The Sandworm Queen (Drakeling): Next Drakeling is Proud, Loving, Female Drakeling who starts with TL10 Growing Bones, TL5 Swallow, TL4 Quake, and TL2 Sand Breath. Also has 50/100 knowledge, some special text, and prefers to learn Savage Strength and Nature Hardened.
- Consuming Blighted Heart of the Sandworm Queen (Drakeling): Next drakeling is a blighted drakeling likely similar to the one above (I couldn't summon the drakeling, just consume the item).
- Using Heart of The Sandworm Queen (All): Gives Burrowing Beast generic tree (Locked) and normal effects.
- Wyrm Bile Normal Use: Plus a lot of blight in addition to normal. Not instant blight, to make this clear.
- Consuming Wyrm Bile (Drakeling): Some kind of corrupted Drakeling, I couldn't use it at the time.
- Wyrm Bile (Unknown Use?, Hydra): Effect unknown.
- Tooth of the Mouth (All): Gives a new natural attack, Tooth of the Mouth.
- Fiery Choker: (If you know the talent category "Ego/Dragon"): Improves "Ego/Dragon" by x0.1, +20% Cold Resistance, -20% Cold Damage. The Fiery Choker is a rare from Fyrk, the Faeros guard at Charred Scar (Portal from Var'Eyal in Eruan), so this is an extremely rare find. I have seen it about once in like 10 games.
- Saving Melinda (All): Cannot be romanced. Use blue option when Summoner bothers you after talking to Melinda to get either a rank in Summoner's Bond (Listening to Summoner) or Summoner's Disparity (Ignoring Summoner)
- The Gaping Maw (Drakeling): Next Drakeling is Tronos (Special Dialogue) Bonus Skills: Icy Skin 4, Ice Breath 2, and Ice Claw 5. Possibly other bonuses. Dislikes you. Tronos may have bonus stats. Prefers to learn Nature Hardened and Savage Strength. Humility, Fire Safety, and Aspiration 5.
- Wyrmbreath (Drakeling): Next Drakeling is Kanros (Special Dialogue) Extra Skills: Fire Breath 2, Devouring Flame 5, Bellowing Roar 4. Also, has Aspiration (Anti-Death) 3, and feels divided towards you. May have bonus stats, I can't tell. Special Dialogue.
- Storm Fury (Drakeling): Next Drakeling is Anklos, a Proud, Loving, Male "Storm Drake"-themed Drakeling whose preferred NC is "Rabbit's Foot" and "Elusiveness" (has VERY high Defense and Trap Evasion). It may be the effect listed below instead. I have had some trouble with that. Special Dialogue.
- Storm Fury (BLIGHTED Drakeling): Next Drakeling is Anklos, a Divided male Blighted Drakeling that starts with Abyssal Flames 2, Fearscape Blaze 5, and Shadow Flare 4. Special Dialogue.
- Primal Infusion (All): Gain 5 Wildness
- Eye of the Wyrm (Hydra): When "Clasped" by a Drool head, it gives Hydra an additional head, as well as TL2 of "Venomous Breath".
- Blood of Life (Consumed and Gluttonied): Instant revival upon next death.
- Swordbreaker (Ritch): When used as an Impermanence Weapon, grants +.1 to Metal Rending and +5 to Swordbreaker.
- Prox's Lucky Halfling Foot (All): Gives all Monstrosities + 10 luck (Note: It may not be ten, but my checking makes it seem so.)
- Hornet Stingers (Ritch, probably): Grants the talent "Petulent Needle"-- A blight with a duration that only depletes when the target moves. Therefore, immobile targets (such as "Venus Fly Traps" or "Bloated Horrors") are doomed to perish when stung by it.
- Crystal Focus (Hydra): Extra natural attack (Prismatic Bite) that attacks for 25% Wild, 120% Willpower, 240% Mag and does arcane damage.
- Tome of Dragoneering (Drakeling): Next drakeling will be Ghryza, a noble hating generalist (although dialogue options can reduce this) drakeling with unique dialogue. Starts with some snarling beast talents. Ghryza has special art, which does NOT receive the rexorcorum changes. Note: If you perform a dialogue about "Coronation" BEFORE eating it, she will love you instead and turn out MUCH smarter. Note that she DOES NOT offer this dialogue until you are level 30 or higher and have "graduated" from her school.
- Serpent's Glare (Drakeling, maybe Mantis, possibly Hydra?): When clasping, after a while, you will start feeling sick. You then gain Spit Poison for a while, but if you do not use it, you might get poisoned.
- Serpent's Glare (Hydra): Extra head (25% Wild, 30% Wil, 30% Cun, 50% Dex) that does nature damage over a few turns, gain talent Spit Poison at lvl 2
- Nexus of the Way (All, I think): Gives Wayist ability from Yeeks.
- Fists of the Desert Scorpion (All): Gives a projection attack that deals mind damage of a natural attack to an enemy. It can be upgraded with various other artifacts.
- Kinetic Focus (All): Gives/upgrades the projection attack (See Fists of the Desert Scorpion)
- Tree of Life (Likely all, Drakeling Definitely): Gives Soothing Shell, which heals you, allies, and enemies and can pacify enemies.
- Mnemonic: Find this one yourself. Some things I won't spoil. Good luck!
- Destroying the Zigur with the Grand Corrupter: Get the Blighted: Seething tree locked at 1.00x.
- Killing the Grand Corrupter after Destroying the Zigur with them: Seething tree improved/unlocked.
- Drinking the Ooze beneath the Slime Forest: Gain the Wild-Heart/Antimagic tree, and become antimagic. I noted that the zigur still tried to murder me after I got this.
- Grand Caller (Clasp): Gives a talent with a name like enrage. Haven't seen it myself, but multiple people have mentioned it.
- Rune of the Rift: Temporal Reprieves you for three turns, and gives you the induce anomaly talent. (This talent may be able to give you a special lore if you have the Embers of Rage addon rarely (The Wei... races lore), it may or may not be patched).
- Arkul's Siege Arrows: Unknown
- Drake's Bane (Bloodhounding): +3 strength.
- Drake's Bane (Fire Drake): Starts a reflection when collected.
- Eskatin's Ultimatum (Bloodhounding): -3 Willpower.
- Dragon Helm of Kroltar (Fire Drake): Gives a reflection for Fire Drake.
- Crystal Shard (All): Can be clasped.
- Behemoth Hide (All): Can be worn as a cloak. Requires a high enough size category, uncertain which.
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- Serpentine Cloak (Hydra): Gives an extra +10 Wil, +5 Con (total 10), +20% Nature, +.10 Ego/Serpent
- Crystal Heart: On hit melee +12 or 10 arcane damage (other's report as ten, mine seems to be showing as 12)
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Multi Game Non-Unlocks
Dragoneering Book: If you have finished the whole thing in a past game, and then beat it again, you get +.2 to drakeling brood talents

Things that are NOT usable of note: NOTE: Some of these may have been changed.
Both Final Boss Drops of ToME
Atamathon's Ruby Eye
Goedalath Rock
Shifting Boots

Starting the Arena gets the Wyrmbreath, The Gaping Maw, and Storm Fury (Blighted) drakes as your starting drakes (with the dialogue upon entry).
Say if you know any others.

Edit: Putting this back up with the new prodigies. And I WISH the new unlocks, if I could find them...


Last edited by Kamani on Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:59 pm, edited 9 times in total.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:00 am 
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@Kamani
I'm probably not supposed to do this, but I'm going to correct a few things in your list:

* Fire Drake Prodigy
"Legacy" allows you to continue playing as one of your Drakelings after your FINAL death if you meet "certain conditions". If you follow even more conditions after that, you can spend the rest of the game playing as them, completely replacing your previous character.
* War Hound Prodigy
After howling 20 times, there's a chance you may be offered to learn it each time you howl (if you have a prodigy point).

* War Hound's secret unlock (Hunting Pack)
Grants ALL the summoning items at the start of the game and DRASTICALLY changes your talent trees. Particularly, it allows you to learn "Dreaming Beast" and "Flickering Beast" talents (which is normally impossible for War Hounds). Finally, it gives you "Call Hunting Pack", which allows you to summon ALL your pack members at once on an increasing cooldown (much like "summoning destabilization").
(NOTE: I haven't added a secondary condition yet but it will probably be having 5 or more pack members at the same time.)
* Minotaur's secret unlock (All-Natural)
No secondary condition yet.

* Chromatic Harness
Grants a special Drakeling
* Saving Melinda (Avatars)
You can't romance Melinda. Instead, if you are currently being nice to the summoner, you can gain a level in Summoner's Bond or Summoner's Disparity.
* Primal Infusion
Gain 5 "Wildness" (no longer "Wild Power")
* Swordbreaker
That glitch is fixed (I think)
* Hornet Stingers (Ritch)
Grants the talent "Petulent Needle"-- A blight with a duration that only depletes when the target moves. Therefore, immobile targets (such as "Venus Fly Traps" or "Bloated Horrors") are doomed to perish when stung by it.
* Tome of Dragoneering
You can eat it to convert Enghryza into a Drakeling. Doing this will cause her to despise you. However, if you perform a dialogue about "Coronation" BEFORE eating it, she will love you instead and turn out MUCH smarter. Note that she DOES NOT offer this dialogue until you are level 30 or higher and have "graduated" from her school.
* Rune of the Rift
I patched that. The dialogue shouldn't happen anymore (it makes no sense for Avatars)
* Arkul's Siege Arrows
Has an "interesting" scent when Bloodhounded.
* Drake's Bane (Fire Drake)
Also starts a reflection when collected.

* Dragon Helm of Kroltar (Fire Drake)
Starts a reflection when collected.


... MANY more secrets, but just mentioning the ones you've "stumbled upon". :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:12 am 
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Okay, thanks! :D Will update. Never managed to get a reflection done without mnemonic, which prevents unlocks, so I haven’t seen it.

Edit: Oh, if War Hound unlocks need the relevant artifacts to get, it will be nearly impossible. I only got one bloodhound artifact before the summoner dialogue.

May have gotten Weissi lore, got some lore. Anomolies trigger it, so... I don't know?

Edit: WAIT, I NEVER updated Fire Drake's Prodigy? What was I DOING? I have known that one for ages.

Edit: Well, update completed. I really needed to catch up on those. Thank you.

Edit: Any advice (besides hope for temporal explorers) on meeting the reflections stuff? I have gotten all the fire drake reflections, and like 2 temporal wardens, and just needing a way to putting it together text in the past when talking to the summoner, but I couldn't trigger it. I just can't figure out how to get enough reflections points. Also, side note, you may want to give special summoner text for getting the secret item victory condition when he asks you if you have figured it out (if you didn't already, thinking about it, I can't recall. Sorry if you did)


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:36 pm 
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@Kamani
I'm in a telling, spoilery mood these days, so I'll give you the exact details on how to get points for Fire Drake (and other Avatars). :D

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*** The goal (for all Reflections quests) is to acquire a total of 100 "points" and to satisfy a special "condition" it's looking for. Each quest has different conditions for gathering points and "piecing" it together. Fire Drake's are as follows:

* You can "complete" Fire Drake's reflection by either:
- Reviving Enghryza (eating the book and creating her)
- Getting the 3rd special dialogue for Huuloc, Drenng, and Isovau

* In addition, you must gather "100" points:
- [10] Starting Enghryza's school
- [15] Finishing Enghryza's school
- [25] Reviving Enghryza
- [25] Huuloc's 3rd dialogue
- [25] Drenng's 3rd dialogue
- [25] Isovau's 3rd dialogue

* There are also "secret" conditions. You get these from other weird events. These are typically universal for all Avatars (except "Myth" encounters).
- [5] For each Temporal Explorer escort you've encountered
- [100] Finding and examining "Mnemonic". (NOTE THAT THIS RENDERS YOU UNABLE TO HEAR YOUR PAST FROM THE SUMMONER, AND THUS, UNABLE TO GET THE UNLOCK!)

* There are also ways to get NEGATIVE points! These are anything that involve learning who The Summoner is (and thus, doubting your own identity)
- [-5] Learning The Summoner's name (talking to "Fillarel Aldaren" in the Unremarkable Cave)
- [-5] Learning about "Resolve Elementals" from "Zemekkys".

* Finally, you can get "General" points. These are from learning talents that have lore about your past. For Fire Drake, they are...
- [1~4] "Wild Heart/Fiery Breath"
- [1~4] "Wild Heart/Mighty Wings"
- [1~4] "Wild Heart/Savaging Claws"


* If you are unsure about when you have met the conditions for the quest, you can check the quest log for the following messages:
- [100 points; not done] "You have seen, experienced, and witnessed many things..."
- [done; less than 100 points] "You have collected many pieces to your past..."
- [100 points; done quest] "You have all the pieces to this puzzle..."

* If you have done all the above correctly, The Summoner will have a special dialogue for you RIGHT before you begin the "Returning Evils" quest, where he will place you into a deep sleep, and you will dream about who you really were before your journey started.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:42 pm 
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Thanks! Huh. How have I never managed to do this as fire drake? Well, off to go do that.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:33 pm 
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Side note: Did the Behemoth Hide becoming a cloak effect get removed? It doesn't do so in my current game, so...


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:27 am 
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@Kamani
You have to be a certain size category, iirc.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:29 am 
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Ah, okay. Thanks!


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:44 am 
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Something seems to be off about the Reflections goal on my most recent game. I got all 3 dialogues from the drakelings, started and finished the drakeling school, one temporal explorer, and 8 generalist skills, but I still only have green "You have collected many pieces to your past...", which you said is done, but less than 100 points. I haven't been to the east yet, so do you have any idea what would keep my reflection score from triggering?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:45 am 
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@Kamani
Spent a while trying to figure out what was wrong... But I figured it out: I incorrectly mentioned that you get 25 points for birthing Enghryza... No, you get 25 points for REVIVING Enghryza (coronation, etc...), so you are actually 25 points shorter than you think at the moment...

I decided to tweak this though-- You'll get 10 points for birthing Enghryza from now on, as well as 25 for reviving her.

Edit: I think I also neglected to "complete" the "A Tale of Dragons" quest, so that's another missing 15 points... Oh boy.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:06 pm 
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I didn’t rebirth Enghryza. Just finished and started the Tome of Dragoneering. Still thought I had enough points. Hmm.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:21 pm 
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I just realized. Orb of the Self (and serpent) have the exact same initials and capitalization pattern as Odyssey of the Summoner. OotS orbs in OotS.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:43 pm 
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@Kamani
More coincidence than intent, I assure you. :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:09 am 
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Oh, I figured. It was just funny to me.


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