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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:51 am 
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Uruivellas

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Davion Fuxa wrote:
Personally I don't think it should send you to the Eidolon Plane. It isn't the Eidolon saving you when you use a Blood of Life - it is a Blood of Life saving you. There should be a distinct difference.

At most, maybe have it so that when you resurrect, something special could happen. Maybe you could gain a massive speed buff or the Invulnerability Potion effect.


HousePet wrote:
Or just reset cooldowns?


Both of these plus you can't deal damage while invulnerable could work well.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:19 am 
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bpat wrote:
Davion Fuxa wrote:
Personally I don't think it should send you to the Eidolon Plane. It isn't the Eidolon saving you when you use a Blood of Life - it is a Blood of Life saving you. There should be a distinct difference.

At most, maybe have it so that when you resurrect, something special could happen. Maybe you could gain a massive speed buff or the Invulnerability Potion effect.


HousePet wrote:
Or just reset cooldowns?


Both of these plus you can't deal damage while invulnerable could work well.


+1 too :-D

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:30 am 
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ster wrote:
bpat wrote:
I agree with jenx and HousePet here, making it send you to the Eidolon Plane would be nice.

But then i can't brag about getting Utterly Destroyed on roguelike :(

How'd you do that?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:55 am 
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Number43 wrote:
ster wrote:
bpat wrote:
I agree with jenx and HousePet here, making it send you to the Eidolon Plane would be nice.

But then i can't brag about getting Utterly Destroyed on roguelike :(

How'd you do that?

Eidolon Plane is a random farportal event.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:16 pm 
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How many other farportal events are there?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:41 am 
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I'd rather the blood of life just gave +1 lives. As it works currently, I've never had it save my life, just pop me up to die a second time to the horde of enemies waiting for me to come back with all defences down.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:35 am 
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How about Ring of the Dead? Does it work the same as blood of life?

In any case, I am surprised people are asking to improve one of the best low-level artifacts. I mean, as it stands, it is already much better than most of the other artifacts you can find early on. As in, it has a use at all, and it has a use for every character you play*, even if very limited. It takes up no item slot and it *will* save you if you died by an unlucky one-shot.

Given that over 90% of all the artifacts you will find have absolutely no use at all except for transmogrification (because they are class specific, or because you already have a better option for the item slot), that makes it an awesome item as it is.

I would rather see buffing of artifacts that really are weak and useless. Anyone got a good use out of the primal infusion lately? Have you been excited about the crystal focus, which you could use late in the game to gain a weaker weapon than you have? Or look at the Rope Belt of the Thaloren, it is race specific and useless even to the specific race.

*: okay, except if you play undead but who does that


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:09 pm 
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The above is probably a good statement to consider, but really if Blood of Life sucks and a bunch of other Artefacts suck - they should all get improved.

In any case, The Blood of Life is only useful if you are living character. If you are playing on Undead characters then it is useless to you - much like with class specific items.

Outside of who an item is usable for though, there are some items useful to any character - I'm thinking for example Feathersteel Amulet or Wanderer's Rest. I use to use The Untouchable quite a bit on any character because it was overpowered, and some items like Fortune's Eye I might not personally keep equipped but I certainly geep them around.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:05 pm 
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Davion Fuxa wrote:

Outside of who an item is usable for though, there are some items useful to any character - I'm thinking for example Feathersteel Amulet or Wanderer's Rest.

feathersteel amulet isn't very useful to any character and WR is overrated

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If you are playing on Undead character

found your problem

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:27 am 
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If by Wandrer's Rest is overrated you mean it's only the third best boots behind Boots of the Hunter and Aetherwalk instead of number one then maybe you have a point but it's almost always one of the best items in that slot. Feathersteel amulet is pretty lame but it usually comes at a time where you don't have anything better so that's fine. Lots of seemingly bad tier 1 artifacts are decent solely because your best alternative at that time is a t1 green.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:30 pm 
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At this point remove the sustain disable
This will buff the master but if u havent disabled his sustains before then wouldn't have changed much

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:58 pm 
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terri wrote:
At this point remove the sustain disable
This will buff the master but if u havent disabled his sustains before then wouldn't have changed much

i'm not seeing a problem with buffing the master since he's currently a joke and if you can kill him once without disabling his sustains you can do it again

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:48 pm 
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Does it work the same way with the skeleton racial resurrect and sustain disables (and thus for enemy bone giants)?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:00 am 
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Number43 wrote:
Does it work the same way with the skeleton racial resurrect and sustain disables (and thus for enemy bone giants)?

yes

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