ToME: the Tales of Maj'Eyal

Everything about ToME
It is currently Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:02 pm

All times are UTC




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 47 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:30 am 
Offline
Uruivellas

Joined: Sun May 19, 2013 1:58 am
Posts: 700
Recent additions: my Corruptor and Doomed guides, Mankeli's Paradox Mage guide, and dadito's Mindslayer guide.

Potential tier list changes:
Sawbutcher A -> B
Mindslayer B -> A
Doomed B -> A
Corruptor B -> C
Gunslinger C -> B
Cursed D -> C
If you have lots of experience with one of these classes on Insane/Madness and think they should be moved a tier, let me know.

_________________
My wiki page, which contains a guide and resource compilation and class tier list.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:10 pm 
Offline
Spiderkin

Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:05 pm
Posts: 492
Agreed on Mindslayer A, haven't played the other classes enough to have an opinion. Demonologist should probably get tiered somewhere (B most likely, i could make a case for A tier but the class does have some pretty large weaknesses holding it back)

_________________
<Shibari> You're full of shit
<darkgod #tome> ster is a troll
<Sheila> and ster, i do agree with you on most things game-related, but do try to not be such an ass!
<mex> your posts lead to people like me being abused and murdered


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:06 pm 
Offline
Halfling

Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:46 pm
Posts: 85
Cursed is in a weird place where its stronger than Alchemist/Rogue/Bulwark/Archer but weaker than Tier C classes so its like a Tier 3.5 class.

_________________
posetcay, the guy who only plays Doombringer


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:50 pm 
Offline
Wayist

Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:31 am
Posts: 27
viewtopic.php?f=41&t=45949

I think this thread is a good resource as it list the tinkers, their requirements and what they do with their skills

Btw i suggest to add the link to your wiki pace in the signatures so everyone can look at it without searching necessarily this 3d

_________________
http://imgur.com/a/nufH1


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:21 pm 
Offline
Spiderkin

Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:05 pm
Posts: 492
posetcay wrote:
Cursed is in a weird place where its stronger than Alchemist/Rogue/Bulwark/Archer but weaker than Tier C classes so its like a Tier 3.5 class.


cursed isn't really that much stronger than bulwark

_________________
<Shibari> You're full of shit
<darkgod #tome> ster is a troll
<Sheila> and ster, i do agree with you on most things game-related, but do try to not be such an ass!
<mex> your posts lead to people like me being abused and murdered


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:21 am 
Offline
Magical Girl

Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:36 am
Posts: 345
Yeah cursed is pretty bottom tier on insane imo.

_________________
"As dying is one of the leading causes of death, you should avoid dying." -rekenner

"I'll bond with a cactus until my buttcheeks touch the sand before I play nethack again" -Gagarin


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:29 am 
Offline
Wyrmic

Joined: Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:41 pm
Posts: 261
Is tier C gunslinger not counting the usage of Awesome Toss + Movement Infusion? Or does that "trick" loss potency in Insane+?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:07 pm 
Offline
Spiderkin

Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:05 pm
Posts: 492
Mordy wrote:
Is tier C gunslinger not counting the usage of Awesome Toss + Movement Infusion? Or does that "trick" loss potency in Insane+?

It's not because that would be like ranking sawbutcher for old saw wheels

_________________
<Shibari> You're full of shit
<darkgod #tome> ster is a troll
<Sheila> and ster, i do agree with you on most things game-related, but do try to not be such an ass!
<mex> your posts lead to people like me being abused and murdered


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:11 pm 
Offline
Uruivellas

Joined: Sun May 19, 2013 1:58 am
Posts: 700
I consider the Awesome Toss thing to be an unintended exploit similar to Augmentation snapshotting so I assume people won't use it. I wouldn't consider a win using that to be a legitimate win. I agree about Cursed being in the awkward spot where it's clearly worse than all the tier C classes but clearly better than all the tier D classes. I'm going to leave it in D for now.

_________________
My wiki page, which contains a guide and resource compilation and class tier list.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:21 pm 
Offline
Spiderkin

Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:05 pm
Posts: 492
unrelated but why is the godawful bulwark guide still in that list? it's full of such crazy suboptimal advice that it's actively harmful to link to it IMO
e: maxes con, maxed spell shield/the stam on kill thing from combat vet, doesn't get dex, 1/5 GWF and riposte, no charm mastery, EGSS, batshit dungeon order

plus his insane victory had 8 deaths so he must have played terribly

_________________
<Shibari> You're full of shit
<darkgod #tome> ster is a troll
<Sheila> and ster, i do agree with you on most things game-related, but do try to not be such an ass!
<mex> your posts lead to people like me being abused and murdered


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:41 pm 
Offline
Uruivellas

Joined: Sun May 19, 2013 1:58 am
Posts: 700
Yeah I'm seriously considering removing it since it has a bunch of bad advice. GWF is easily the best talent Bulwark has other than maybe Step Up. I'm thinking that the writer won in spite of the build rather than because of it.

_________________
My wiki page, which contains a guide and resource compilation and class tier list.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:38 pm 
Offline
Wyrmic

Joined: Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:41 pm
Posts: 261
bpat wrote:
I consider the Awesome Toss thing to be an unintended exploit similar to Augmentation snapshotting so I assume people won't use it.

Fair enough!


Last edited by Mordy on Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:59 pm 
Offline
Thalore

Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:46 pm
Posts: 191
They should probably change awesome toss so it acts either once per turn, or inherits your attack speed, instead of attacking every time you act.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:56 am 
Offline
Sher'Tul Godslayer

Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:16 pm
Posts: 2116
My prediction for 2017: Marksman will be tier B :-)


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:11 am 
Offline
Spiderkin

Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:05 pm
Posts: 492
Rogue will probably be A if it's anything like the addon i downloaded (for like 5 minutes before not bothering to actually play one)


e: iirc there were some pretty big changes to Mobility/Survival in there too

_________________
<Shibari> You're full of shit
<darkgod #tome> ster is a troll
<Sheila> and ster, i do agree with you on most things game-related, but do try to not be such an ass!
<mex> your posts lead to people like me being abused and murdered


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 47 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: TheRani and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group