ToME: the Tales of Maj'Eyal

I started working a while ago on auto-generating some spoilers for ToME, either as a supplement to the wiki or as an easier way of updating the wiki.

I finally finished the talents: http://tometips.github.io

Hopefully this will be useful to people. I've found it to be a handy resource in my own games.

The next question: What should be done from here? Is this way of displaying and formatting talents useful? Are there improvements that could be made?

Is there room for a site like this to exist alongside the wiki, or should the content be added to the wiki and the site shut down? Is there a way to get the wiki to do stuff like expand / collapse or tooltips on mouse hover?

If I keep working on autogenerating spoilers, what should I add next? Classes? Artifacts? Add-ons? More details on talents?

In case anyone's interested, the source code for generating the spoilers is at https://github.com/tometips/tometips.

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(QDZ) - an Oriental-themed fantasy game for T-Engine. - auto-generated spoilers for ToME.

Neat!

The slide-down is very cool looking but makes the page kind of a pain to search. Maybe put the talent pictures on the right, aligned to occupy the otherwise empty space across from the requirements and costs info? Also have a way to expand everything on the page -- maybe a toggle somewhere so I can set the whole page to auto-expand if I'm searching for something.

Do classes next. Then do my add-ons


EDIT: also cool would be if you had a way to allow people to edit the inputs to those formulae, like changing the spellpower / mastery / damage type +% bonus etc. if they wanted.

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oh, that's a great site, very useful

Woh this is awesome, you even have a tooltip saying what increases what .. I'm rather impressed!
By all means do more: classes, races, npcs, objects, zones are all cool candidates

Oh, some talents should be excluded though, most base ones are more like internal markers.
The inscriptions are internally 6-plicated, you should only show one though, they are identical.
Maybe you can add an index that lists all talents with a searchbox for quick find?
I agree with the "deploy whole category" idea too.

As for wiki or not; it would be cool if it could automatically update the wiki, but this sounds hard and annoying.
Maybe this can be integrated on te4.org directly though. And if I manage to make my ingame browser thingie work for 1.2.0 then this could directly be accessible ingame too, even from the main menu

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Looks fricken sweet. A while ago I toyed with the idea of some spreadsheet you could list talent trees according to stat they use.
With a presentation like this on the site the only feature I would miss is listing trees in the order of used stat.

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btw, it fetched some stuff which is not in the game like this http://tometips.github.io/#talents/chro ... al-archery

Thank you, everyone, for the feedback.

I'll see about adding an expand all / collapse all option and fixing the talents mentioned. (I hadn't decided if the internal and inaccessible talents were a bug or a feature - I think it's interesting to see how ToME works and what ideas have been kicked around - but the consensus is to remove them, and they really don't belong in a spoilers web site, so I'll fix that.)

Letting people edit the inputs to the formulas would be harder. Right now, I'm able to run T-Engine code to generate the web site offline, then upload the results. On-the-fly editing gets more complicated, but it may be doable.

Doctornull, I can try putting the pictures on the right, although I'm afraid it may make it harder to visually scan. I'm not clear on how that would make searching easier?

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(QDZ) - an Oriental-themed fantasy game for T-Engine. - auto-generated spoilers for ToME.

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Check out my addons: (classes), (items & talents), and fork.

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(QDZ) - an Oriental-themed fantasy game for T-Engine. - auto-generated spoilers for ToME.

Haven't been digging the code lately, but could you search for the ratios of skills? Like "skill X uses Spellpower * 3 + talent level" to make theorycrafting easier

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(QDZ) - an Oriental-themed fantasy game for T-Engine. - auto-generated spoilers for ToME.

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(QDZ) - an Oriental-themed fantasy game for T-Engine. - auto-generated spoilers for ToME.

Awesome, I really like being able to browse 1.2 talents. Question, though: a quick look shows Healing Light listed as "Changed", but I don't see any difference between "Old" and "New". Are you maybe picking up on a change in whitespace or comments?

Ooo, ooo, an idea for improvement which might be easy: List artifacts and egos which lower the cooldown for a talent, under that talent.

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shines on -> shines upon

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Ohhhhh very nice that compare !

BTW Castler, why are you not taking residence in #tome on irc.rizon.net ?

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[tome] joylove: You can't just release an expansion like one would release a Kraken XD
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[tome] phantomfrettchen: your ability not to tease anyone is simply stunning