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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 9:37 pm 
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Was there a nerf to wilder summons or a change to monster stats? Especially trolls and bears seem significantly more difficult to kill now.


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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:05 pm 
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I did not touch wilders.

All NPCs leveling got changed but it should be better not worse for the most parts.
All critter & normal rank monsters have had a reduction in HP and stats

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:18 pm 
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I could have just gotten unlucky with leveled trolls or something. I was getting hit for 50ish damage on level one of the troll fells.


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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:22 pm 
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Ahh trolls sorry missed that.
Trolls were actually bugged in in beta1, their damage did not increase with their strength :)

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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:38 pm 
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It looks like they also drop gold now too. I don't remember anything dropping it before. I never went much past the first two dungeons though. They seem to drop quite a lot of it too.


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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 10:41 pm 
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Yes an other hidden bug that was fixed, but probably drops too much now

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:20 pm 
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There might be slightly too much gold now. I'm still not sure what the balance is supposed to be.

The beta2 monsters are definitely improved. I had a couple run-ins with powerful beasties (a Hummerhorn in the Trollshaws did in one of my chars; I think there was a Huorn or something that killed the other, but it went by so fast...), but mostly I was fighting area-appropriate things. And the mice often have single-digit HP! It was most refreshing.

I actually beat Bill with 2 different characters, one of which is a freshly-unlocked Wilder (thanks to something that my last Slinger faced). I still haven't managed to survive that starting dungeon, though... dear gods. So many traps. So many spellcasting and ranged-attacking monsters. So many situations where you are suddenly right next to a monster due to the tight corridors and sharp corners... well, maybe Gene Wilder will be the first, although I still think a Fighter would be better suited to that terrain.


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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:06 pm 
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I dont have much problems getting warriors (Figthers to be precise) out of amon sul, I stay in tunnels, as long as I am not surrouded and I keep my stun for dangerous things it is fine :)

What wilder class ?

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 11:59 pm 
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There's more than one? Summoner, apparently.


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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:06 am 
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Yes there is an other unlockable wilder class :)
You'll encounter it later

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:17 am 
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you are suddenly right next to a monster due to the tight corridors and sharp corners


You're going to LOVE the maze!


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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 3:01 am 
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greycat wrote:
I still haven't managed to survive that starting dungeon, though... maybe Gene Wilder will be the first


Nope, that char's still alive on a different machine, but the first char to make it through the dungeon happens to be a slinger. Go hobbits!


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