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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 12:02 pm 
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Lord Estraven wrote:
Ugh. Perhaps I'll look into fixing that. I assume the C function for grabbing an item at a distance should be checking for CAVE_ICKY, or something like that?

The trouble with that is that Deathmolds would not be able to get anything out of a vault, even if they killed everything in it. Maybe you could restrict it to line of sight. Recall is LoS when you first get it and switches to being able to operate anywhere after another level or two.


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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:43 pm 
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UPDATE: Bitlitch is now done with the home quests in the four major towns, and I've got scads of Elf Skeletons. Next up I plan to take a Thunderlord-teleport down to the Sacred Land of Mountains, kill off Trone, and recall back and forth with stacks of junk until I get a couple quivers of artifact ammo. Once that's done it's on to Mirkwood for more questing. Seriously, the Barrow-Downs only gave me ONE bloody Fumblefingers quest, and the options were all crap so I ended up taking a boost to Magic-device.

I'm hoping to get Mindcraft up to a 0.5 modifier, then dump points into it for some good utility spells like detection and whatnot. After scumming for so long, I plan to make some rapid progress quickly, and maybe we'll get to kill the Necromancer sometime soon.

Then again, Diablo 3 is out. So maybe we won't get much questing done at all, depending on the servers. :mrgreen:

EDIT: Bitlitch bit the big one, sadly enough. Two fairly nasty encounters with various undead left him with no mana and little HP, and there wasn't enough gain from Share Life to prevent death from a nether ball that came out of Bog-knows-where. Serves me right for trying to mass summon in the Paths of the Dead. RIP, good sir. You died as you lived: as insultingly as possible.

CURRENTLY: The next cheapy-cheap character is a Deathmold Possessor. I'm starting out in Bree instead of Mandos this time. The character will use Weaponmastery and Magic-Device, as well as some auxiliary points in Archery. Maybe FF will be kind this time around and I can make something happen.

Just did the home quest and got a Novice Rogue body, sold the Bandit's dagger and used the proceeds to get a wand of Manathrust, then kept going south to the swamp to take out hydras for more cash. Then more wands, then more cash, etc. I don't like using bodies with "non-standard" equipment slots, because usually the lack of body armor or boots or other variety is too much of a disadvantage. Yeah, the Watcher has six ring slots and three weapon slots, but that'll be a judgement call if I actually pull that corpse. If nothing else I'll be a Gold Thunderlord (Great HP, speed) or maybe Maeglin (decent HP, SUMMONS!) for the endgame, depending on how lucky my equipment drops are.

Werrix is now level 12, in the body of a Lizard King, and for once in my ToME career I remembered to buy a shovel BEFORE going to tackle the Barrow-Downs. Here's how I see it going further:
  • Lizard King gets me permanent +10 speed, which will make the Downs a breeze. Go through there first, then use the ego-items for either equipment or cash.
  • After that, it's up to the mountains with a stack of Manathrust wands. Kill some dragons to get more levels, and scum for a Cyclops body.
  • Orc cave is next for equipment, then maybe the Maze for the helmet and rod tip, then Mirkwood for FF quests and ego items.
  • If I've got decent kit and Archery is up to snuff, I'll go for the home quests in Lothlorien (yay ammo!) and Gondolin, possibly.
  • Who knows? After finishing a couple home quests and getting through the mid-30s, I plan to finalize my character plan to focus either on melee or archery, depending on the body I get and the equipment available.

UPDATE: Werrix just got an Archery bonus from Fumblefingers, bringing the skill up to 0.500 rate. That's enough for me to use it as a dump skill once Possession and Weaponmastery are done, and it should help boost Combat through spillover. Sucks that I can't find a good skill point planner. Zizzo's jtomespoiler seems to have disappeared from the 'net.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:10 pm 
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I still have it, I think!

I'll need to dig it out. Bide a while!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:44 pm 
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madmonk wrote:
I still have it, I think!

I'll need to dig it out. Bide a while!

Sweet deal. That'd be awesome!

Werrix just pulled a Small Sword {special} from a princess reward on level 3 of the Barrow-Downs. Should I be getting excited, or am I fooling myself?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 2:58 am 
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'Small Sword?'

Not 'short sword?'

Yeah, you should feel special. There's literally one thing it can be, and if I were you I'd go spoil yourself on it RIGHT NOW because how you treat it affects it greatly ;)

With a little luck, it'll carry you through midgame. A lot of luck, it'll carry you through end game until optimal itemization. With fantastic luck, some scumming, and patience, it can be one of the best things out there.

But there's literally one thing it can be, and admittedly I've never even *found* that damn thing.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:13 am 
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I think it's actually MORE likely to get a randart Small Sword than it is to get Sting, but Sting is what I got :D . This is now officially my second-luckiest character, after my sorcerer that found a Staff of Wish of Plenty. (Polished PDSM of Immunity, plus a Mage Staff of Wizardry and a bunch of Craftsmanship scrolls to take it up to +100% mana? Best sorc I've ever had, and it died on the Maeglin quest because I got too greedy.)

Of course, now that I've got the (potentially) best weapon in the game the RNG will have to make up for it somehow. Sting has leveled up to 12, and so far no Earth realm, and no danger of getting that oh-so-useless flag that makes sentient weapons so hit and miss. I suspect I'll get a princess quest for 11 Nexus Quylthulgs or some such once I hit Angband. Figures.

Oh well. The Orc cave is boring and I'm overleveled, so maybe I'll party in Mirkwood for a while, maybe get Mindcraft rewards for some cheap trap detection.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:25 pm 
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I hate you :P

I made so many hobbit sword masters and *never* found Sting in all my years of playing ToME 2.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:27 pm 
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lol, this thread just had me pick TOME 2 back up! love it still... makes me think of how divergent TOME 4 has become... interesting... both great tho! :)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:03 am 
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I guess that last ever T2 character... wasn't the last? :)

I've been thinking of doing some DitLing myself (between all the classwork!) but I'm kind of holding out for AnonymousHero to okay some of my trap changes. I find that bad trap mechanics make a lot of character builds unplayable or unfun at high levels; and I would rather not hack the trap behavior myself for a DitL (though I invariably do so for normal gameplay).

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:41 am 
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MasterShizzle wrote:
Sweet deal. That'd be awesome!


I've asked Zizzo about this so once he gets back to me...

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:14 am 
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MasterShizzle wrote:
Sucks that I can't find a good skill point planner. Zizzo's jtomespoiler seems to have disappeared from the 'net.


Oops, with it up on the old wiki all that time, I'd completely forgotten that I didn't have it up on my own page too. That has been corrected. We Apologize for the Inconvenience.(TM)

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:09 am 
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Oh cool, I was wondering where that was. Thanks!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:30 am 
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edge2054 wrote:
I hate you :P

I made so many hobbit sword masters and *never* found Sting in all my years of playing ToME 2.


Just try a sorceror worshiping Eru. You are almost guaranteed to find it.

Seriously, I have found it several times, but only with sorcerors.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:35 pm 
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Zizzo wrote:
Oops, with it up on the old wiki all that time, I'd completely forgotten that I didn't have it up on my own page too. That has been corrected. We Apologize for the Inconvenience.(TM)

Zizzo, you rule. Thanks!

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Just try a sorceror worshiping Eru. You are almost guaranteed to find it.

Seriously, I have found it several times, but only with sorcerors.

Yeah, the only other time I found Sting was with an Eru sorceror. This is the first melee-centric character that I've found it with, and it RULES.

I usually start a DitL for each character I run, because DitL'ing forces me to slow down and think about what I'm doing. Werrix is about to go through some tough times in Angband, so I'll continue to do so and publish it once it's done. Everyone, think "winner"!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:58 pm 
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Thanks, Zizzo!

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